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Does Lauri Get Traded?

Does Lauri Get Dealt Before The Season Starts?

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I would say about Siakam is that I dont think he is 20% of the fit Lauri is in a Kerr motion offense.

Its just off ball activity and floor spacing. Going from Kuminga to Siakam is not improving the fit much even if its a clear talent upgrade.

So Id say Warriors probably value Lauri much higher as he also makes Steph and Dray better. Siakam really doesnt.
 
I have no idea why Lauri would prefer to go to GS. The team would be gutted and no way to improve their aging roster. They would be a playoff team if healthy but not a competitive one. Green has already fallen off and will continue. Steph is still elite but I am not sure that is enough to do much and they are 1 Steph injury away from out of the playoffs and wont have their own pick. He is better building something here. If he cares about winning then he would not sign an extension and sign as a FA with a team and give up the extra money. That way the team isnt gutted to trade from him. Or wait it out and build with Utah.

Personally I would not trade him for any package GS can or is offering. The only way I would feel slightly okay is if GS gives up every pick, swap, and young player we want. But I doubt they do that. So I think he stays since its a bad move to trade him.

That said I dont think we are a bottom 5 this year with Lauri, Sexton, and others. We are better than last year. Last year we were awful at the Guard positions for about the first half of the year. I think that part is likely solved. Sexton is drastically improved from the start of last year. I think Clarkson likely has a bounce back season, especially since I think he goes back to his role he is used to. I think its clear that Keyonte is improved. Not having THT get major minutes is a plus. Kessler will be improved. Collins improved a lot across last season despite being in a bad role for him. I think he has continued to learn and will be better after an off season with the staff. The 1st and 2nd year guys will be up and down but a few of them have a chance to actually contribute to winning.

Post trades last year should not really be looked at. The team went full tank and the players quit. They also benched a lot of guys and made it clear we wanted to lose and thats what happened. We lost a couple guys but I dont think that matters too much and the improvements from our other players is bigger than the loss of those guys. I think we are a borderline play in team again unless there is more trades with a chance to be even better if we have a breakout performance from a young guy.

Sexton would be the player to move to drop off but I dont think his value is high around the league. He also could take another jump and/or play like he did in the second half with more minutes and really be a difference maker. His value would jump up big time or make himself a keeper. If he can improve passing even more and play with Lauri better that could win a lot of games.
 
Ron Mexico said:
I have no idea why Lauri would prefer to go to GS. The team would be gutted and no way to improve their aging roster. They would be a playoff team if healthy but not a competitive one. Green has already fallen off and will continue. Steph is still elite but I am not sure that is enough to do much and they are 1 Steph injury away from out of the playoffs and wont have their own pick. He is better building something here. If he cares about winning then he would not sign an extension and sign as a FA with a team and give up the extra money. That way the team isnt gutted to trade from him. Or wait it out and build with Utah.

Personally I would not trade him for any package GS can or is offering. The only way I would feel slightly okay is if GS gives up every pick, swap, and young player we want. But I doubt they do that. So I think he stays since its a bad move to trade him.

That said I dont think we are a bottom 5 this year with Lauri, Sexton, and others. We are better than last year. Last year we were awful at the Guard positions for about the first half of the year. I think that part is likely solved. Sexton is drastically improved from the start of last year. I think Clarkson likely has a bounce back season, especially since I think he goes back to his role he is used to. I think its clear that Keyonte is improved. Not having THT get major minutes is a plus. Kessler will be improved. Collins improved a lot across last season despite being in a bad role for him. I think he has continued to learn and will be better after an off season with the staff. The 1st and 2nd year guys will be up and down but a few of them have a chance to actually contribute to winning.

Post trades last year should not really be looked at. The team went full tank and the players quit. They also benched a lot of guys and made it clear we wanted to lose and thats what happened. We lost a couple guys but I dont think that matters too much and the improvements from our other players is bigger than the loss of those guys. I think we are a borderline play in team again unless there is more trades with a chance to be even better if we have a breakout performance from a young guy.

Sexton would be the player to move to drop off but I dont think his value is high around the league. He also could take another jump and/or play like he did in the second half with more minutes and really be a difference maker. His value would jump up big time or make himself a keeper. If he can improve passing even more and play with Lauri better that could win a lot of games.
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I think one good point you make here is we may be underestimating year 2 Keyonte and his possible contributions to winning.
 
HermanG said:
I think one good point you make here is we may be underestimating year 2 Keyonte and his possible contributions to winning.
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It's basically year two Keyonte vs THT just year. I think we're upgraded there. Our starters are definitely improved over the start of last season compared to the start of this year. The backups are debatable.
 
Ron Mexico said:
It's basically year two Keyonte vs THT just year. I think we're upgraded there. Our starters are definitely improved over the start of last season compared to the start of this year. The backups are debatable.
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It will be tough to be much worse at guard than we were to start the season last year. The Hunger Games method ended up yielding a bunch of me first play. It was awful. That said… we have offloaded 3 of our top +- guys from last year in Tech Dunn KO. I think the over under of 27.5 is pretty spot on right now. Move one vet and our rotation will be made up of 40-50% developing players and we can end up firmly bottom 5
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
It will be tough to be much worse at guard than we were to start the season last year. The Hunger Games method ended up yielding a bunch of me first play. It was awful. That said… we have offloaded 3 of our top +- guys from last year in Tech Dunn KO. I think the over under of 27.5 is pretty spot on right now. Move one vet and our rotation will be made up of 40-50% developing players and we can end up firmly bottom 5
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Yeah, those three gone is why the bench is likely worse unless some guys breakout. But that said Tech wasn't good to start the season. Most on this board hated him until he broke out. Dunn didn't play much early. But KO was big for us especially early. With the current roster and no changes 27.5 is low to me. But when odds makers are looking at the last two years they have to factor in second half hard core tanking tactics so it might not be far off with that in mind. Even moving one vet not named Lauri doesn't guarantee bottom 5. But obviously makes it more likely. This team has out performed by a decent amount under Hardy until the FO goes Tonya Harding on them.
 
My guess is the Lauri trade/extension triggers another transaction. If I had to guess it would be some sort of Lakers salary dump move like Clarkson for Dlo and Vincent. Dlo then gets a buy out and heads out somewhere. Would guess he'd get a few million on the open market so might make the buyout a little less pricey. Pick compensation of some sort comes back our way.

I think Grant in Portland, Ingram in NO, Cam Johnson and DFS in Brooklyn and a few other moves happen but might be waiting on the Lauri domino.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Yeah, those three gone is why the bench is likely worse unless some guys breakout. But that said Tech wasn't good to start the season. Most on this board hated him until he broke out. Dunn didn't play much early. But KO was big for us especially early. With the current roster and no changes 27.5 is low to me. But when odds makers are looking at the last two years they have to factor in second half hard core tanking tactics so it might not be far off with that in mind. Even moving one vet not named Lauri doesn't guarantee bottom 5. But obviously makes it more likely. This team has out performed by a decent amount under Hardy until the FO goes Tonya Harding on them.
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And that number also factors in the chance we may move Lauri I'm sure. Even if it is only like a 10-20% chance. It depends on which vet is moved but if Sexton or Kessler were moved I think bottom 5 is a lock... if its Clarkson... maybe not.

I just can't think of many examples of teams with like 5 rookies/2nd year players in the rotation that won 25+ games. Unless one of the rookies/2nd year guys are transcendent Wemby types.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
My guess is the Lauri trade/extension triggers another transaction. If I had to guess it would be some sort of Lakers salary dump move like Clarkson for Dlo and Vincent. Dlo then gets a buy out and heads out somewhere. Would guess he'd get a few million on the open market so might make the buyout a little less pricey. Pick compensation of some sort comes back our way.

I think Grant in Portland, Ingram in NO, Cam Johnson and DFS in Brooklyn and a few other moves happen but might be waiting on the Lauri domino.
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The way you juice more value for and incentive from the Lakers is you do a three team where D-Lo goes to Cleveland and Okoro comes back here in a S&T, then Cleveland trades D-Lo to us for Clarkson a separate transaction shortly thereafter, thereby making him eligible to re-sign with the Lakers.
 
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