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Does Lauri Get Traded?

Does Lauri Get Dealt Before The Season Starts?

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Step-Back Lauri said:
I don't think Spurs will budge to give up all their Atlanta picks. If they make an offer, that -25 pick will at least have slight protections. They really would have a use for another top 5 pick to pair with Wemby and grow with the core.
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can a team with another teams unprotected pick trade it and put protections on it? I didn’t think you could do that.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Nothing is being drawn out. He can't do the R&E deal until a certain date.
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I realize that but there is an uncertainty there as to whether he's with the Jazz, Kings, Dubs or whatever. Also Ainge or Zanik are doing a lot of legwork to get these offers. You would think it's either fish or cut bait time.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
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can a team with another teams unprotected pick trade it and put protections on it? I didn’t think you could do that.
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You can, but you cannot roll over the pick if the protections activate. You just lose the pick. I wouldn't take the Atlanta pick with protections on it. There is no point to that.
 
I am coming around on the idea of trading Lauri.

My STRONG preference coming into this offseason was to make a competitive move - trade some of our draft stash for a franchise cornerstone and build around Lauri, Keyonte, and trade acquisition (+ the other young guys). But given the crickets through draft/FA, and looking around the league, I have no idea who that trade target would be.

It's very possible we strike out on a major move again, and if so, there's a lot to be said for getting yet another draft haul (or a rising star like Kuminga - very bullish), pegging ourselves squarely in the top 5 of the 2025 draft, and shifting course to build around our decent young core.

Womp womp.
 
Idk, from Lauri's POV I'd imagine this is all pretty flattering. You're either going to make a boatload of money playing for the jazz, including a huge raise this year, and been told that you're more valuable than 3 picks, 3 swaps, and a young guy, or you'll be traded to a team that believes you're pushing them into contention and is also more or less committing to paying you 200 million dollars.

Hard for me to really get why he'd hold a grudge - the consistent Jazz messaging has been that if you're willing to give us no choice, we'll make a trade.
 
It's often assumed that most reliable way to get a player who is talented enough to be a number 1 on a championship team is to draft one through a top-5 pick. This may be true, but just a reminder that the odds of this happening in any particular year are quite low.

Over the last 15 drafts (75 top-5 picks) I count 9 players who have shown this type of talent: Wemby, Anthony Edwards, Williamson, Morant, Doncic, Tatum, Jalen Brown, Embiid, Anthony Davis (if you don't agree that one or more of these is talented enough to be a number 1 on a championship team, then the odds are even lower). This works out to 12% chance of getting a #1 championship piece through any particular top-5 draft choice -- or about one in every 8 years of having a top five pick. In these past 15 years there was only one year where as many as two players qualify (Williamson and Morant, two of the shakiest on this list).

(For full disclosure, the jury is still out on some of these picks, but I don't think anyone not on the list really is a true championship #1 from among other top-5 picks. This list of comes-close-or-still-has-potential-but-probably-not-a-championship-#1 includes: Banchero, Holmgren, Mobley, Barnes, Cunningham, Cousins)
 
idiot said:
It's often assumed that most reliable way to get a player who is talented enough to be a number 1 on a championship team is to draft one through a top-5 pick. This may be true, but just a reminder that the odds of this happening in any particular year are quite low.

Over the last 15 drafts (75 top-5 picks) I count 9 players who have shown this type of talent: Wemby, Anthony Edwards, Williamson, Morant, Doncic, Tatum, Jalen Brown, Embiid, Anthony Davis (if you don't agree that one or more of these is talented enough to be a number 1 on a championship team, then the odds are even lower). This works out to 12% chance of getting a #1 championship piece through any particular top-5 draft choice -- or about one in every 8 years of having a top five pick. In these past 15 years there was only one year where as many as two players qualify (Williamson and Morant, two of the shakiest on this list).
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Most of the list is shaky. Only three people from it have actually won a ring. One definitely wasn't a #1 option(even if you accept the title itself as a genuine one) and the other two were on the same team so obviously one of them was not the #1 option. That really leaves one player.
 
JimLes said:
Most of the list is shaky. Only three people from it have actually won a ring. One definitely wasn't a #1 option(even if you accept the title itself as a genuine one) and the other two were on the same team so obviously one of them was not the #1 option. That really leaves one player.
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Guess you're definitely prioritizing keeping Lauri over moving him to make sure we're bad enough to have a top-five pick then?
 
idiot said:
It's often assumed that most reliable way to get a player who is talented enough to be a number 1 on a championship team is to draft one through a top-5 pick. This may be true, but just a reminder that the odds of this happening in any particular year are quite low.

Over the last 15 drafts (75 top-5 picks) I count 9 players who have shown this type of talent: Wemby, Anthony Edwards, Williamson, Morant, Doncic, Tatum, Jalen Brown, Embiid, Anthony Davis (if you don't agree that one or more of these is talented enough to be a number 1 on a championship team, then the odds are even lower). This works out to 12% chance of getting a #1 championship piece through any particular top-5 draft choice -- or about one in every 8 years of having a top five pick. In these past 15 years there was only one year where as many as two players qualify (Williamson and Morant, two of the shakiest on this list).

(For full disclosure, the jury is still out on some of these picks, but I don't think anyone not on the list really is a true championship #1 from among other top-5 picks. This list of comes-close-or-still-has-potential-but-probably-not-a-championship-#1 includes: Banchero, Holmgren, Mobley, Barnes, Cunningham, Cousins)
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There are certainly no guarantees but I think next years draft is pretty special. Also I think you are missing a few that could be a number 1 on a championship team if surrounded by the right guys.

Kyrie
Trae
KAT
Beal ( past his prime now but he was pretty special for a few years but unfortunately was surrounded by mediocre talent )
 
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