Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking

[colton]

If Trump knew about it I would consider it a crime by Trump. If some supporter did something he was unaware of then I don't see how you could blame him for it.

That still doesn't answer my question, unless you are saying it is a "something burger" only if crimes are found to be committed by Trump. Is that what you are saying?

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

That still doesn't answer my question, unless you are saying it is a "something burger" only if crimes are found to be committed by Trump. Is that what you are saying?

For Trump, yes. You think you can prosecute him for crimes that he had no involvement in? Honestly, this is the first I've ever heard of anyone suggesting that he might have committed crimes that he played no role in (not even knowledge of).

I believe that the answer to why Trump won is in this book... Strike that. It's on this book. You don't even need to open the front cover. The question and then the answer are staring you in the face in big bold letters.

The primary reason that Trump won is that he was facing a candidate who was even worse than him. Pretty stunning.

BTW, I listened to this book. It is both terrible and incredibly revealing. She does not get it.

 

[fishonjazz]

The primary reason that Trump won is that he was facing a candidate who was even worse than him. Pretty stunning.

I disagree. I think the main reason he won is that no one thought he had a chance and was not a threat to win. I think many people either didn’t vote at all or voted for an independent. I think if we could go back and re do the election today, knowing what we know now, Hillary would win quite easily. Especially if we were somehow able to keep Russia out of it.... Russia is another strong candidate for the main reason trump “won” (even though he got less total votes than Hillary anyway. Which reminds me. Another main reason trump won was the fact that we a stupid and old fashioned way of counting the votes with the electoral college)

 

[sirkickyass]

FWIW: Russian State TV takes it as a given that Russia helped Trump win and that Trump "owes" Russia whatever it wants now.

 

[colton]

For Trump, yes. You think you can prosecute him for crimes that he had no involvement in? Honestly, this is the first I've ever heard of anyone suggesting that he might have committed crimes that he played no role in (not even knowledge of).

I really don't get your last two sentences. Why do you think I think that? Where did I suggest that?

What I find also perplexing is how you apparently think that there's nothing worth investigating if Trump himself did not play a role.

FWIW, I think Trump did play a role, in the cover up at least, but possibly also in collusion. However I'm confident to wait to see what facts are found and proven by the special prosecutor.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

I really don't get your last two sentences. Why do you think I think that? Where did I suggest that?

What I find also perplexing is how you apparently think that there's nothing worth investigating if Trump himself did not play a role.

FWIW, I think Trump did play a role, in the cover up at least, but possibly also in collusion. However I'm confident to wait to see what facts are found and proven by the special prosecutor.

To me the whole nothing burger discussion has been about Trump's involvement in the supposed collusion. Apparently that's not the case for you. That's the genesis for my impression that you were suggesting that Trump might bear responsibility for something he knew nothing about.

I do think there may be something worth investigating no matter what Trump's role was and I hope that the investigators are a lot more level-headed than the media regarding this. I'm very turned off by the anti-Trump crowd's rampant speculation over every scrap of "info" that comes out. They come off, to me, as a slobbering band of unhinged lunatics. They don't really seem to care what happened. They only care that somehow something takes down Trump.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

I disagree. I think the main reason he won is that no one thought he had a chance and was not a threat to win. I think many people either didn’t vote at all or voted for an independent. I think if we could go back and re do the election today, knowing what we know now, Hillary would win quite easily. Especially if we were somehow able to keep Russia out of it.... Russia is another strong candidate for the main reason trump “won” (even though he got less total votes than Hillary anyway. Which reminds me. Another main reason trump won was the fact that we a stupid and old fashioned way of counting the votes with the electoral college)

You give Russia a lot more credit than I ever have. I believe the reason Trump won is that there are a lot of people in America who are very turned off by the Democrat agenda and methods, but they do not enjoy being shamed (libs try to turn everything into a race issue, for example) so they keep their opinions quiet until they are in the voting booth. I am more vocal about my feelings in this regard than a lot of people, but I have had many, many conversations with people who share my sentiments.

I guess we will find out whether I am more correct or if you are after the mid-terms. If the Dems can't take back a lot of ground in these elections it's got to be a huge concern for them.

 

[Red]

So anyway, and FWIW, Michael Cohen is no longer saying he will take a bullet for Trump.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mic...try-president-trump-loyalty/story?id=56304585

"But Cohen did not praise the president during our conversation -- and pointedly disagreed with Trump’s criticism of the federal investigations.

When I asked Cohen directly what he would do if prosecutors forced him to choose between protecting the president and protecting his family, he said his family is “my first priority.”

Cohen added: “Once I understand what charges might be filed against me, if any at all, I will defer to my new counsel, Guy Petrillo, for guidance.”

But when I pointed out to Cohen that he wasn’t repeating past vows to “take a bullet” and “do anything” to protect the president, the longtime Trump loyalist left little doubt about where he stands now, saying simply: “To be crystal clear, my wife, my daughter and my son, and this country have my first loyalty.”

 

[Deleted member 365]

Donald seems to be tweeting like a matching today in attempts to distract from Cohen flipping.

 

[moevillini]

Obstruction, which appears to have happened, is not a concern. The POTUS can't obstruct justice, after all. The President IS the law.

um, that's exactly what President Nixon was impeached for - obstruction of justice - that, and abuse of power. He wasn't officially found guilty however, because he resigned before the final vote was taken.

 

[Deleted member 365]

More fake news from the totally corrupt and liberal senate intelligence committee, right MAGAs?

Water is wet and brainless Donald and his zombie MAGA cult still won’t believe in our intelligence offices.

 

[Red]

So, he ended the nuclear threat on the Korean Peninsula. No, wait, he just claimed to end it, as evidence that his foreign policy of personal chemistry was winning big. In actuality, the threat is still there and he made a fool out of himself. But at least he can commiserate with his favorite fellow authoritarian.

Might as well call in the first person off the street and ask them if they would like to be president.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-putin-confidant-nato-helsinki-summit-2018-7

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...80389a4e569_story.html?utm_term=.ae2ef4854c11