Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking

[colton]

Ok repubs, Stoked, Dutch, etc, 2 easy Yes or No questions:

#1 Do you believe that Trump fired Comey because he felt bad for Comey smearing Clinton? YES or NO
#2 Would you be this dismissive of this executive behavior if Obama or Clinton had won and were being investigated for colluding with Russia and were firing all the top officials who were investigating him/her? YES or NO

Answer these 2 questions truthfully. Thanks guys!

Please don't use the term "Republicans" as synonymous with "Trump supporters". I've consistently been very anti-Trump, but am still a Republican.

There's no question that Trump's prepared excuse for firing Comey was not the actual reason. As I'm sure you know, all reports agree that Trump first decided to fire Comey, and then asked the AG and deputy AG to write up some reasons why. And that's shameful.

Trump's claim that the he was following the deputy AG's recommendation to fire Comey pissed the deputy AG off so much that he nearly resigned. (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dep...-resigning-upset-wh-pinning/story?id=47342541.) Again, shameful act by Trump to blame the firing on Rosenstein.

To add insult to injury, Comey found out about his firing from the ticker on a TV screen. No personal notification at all. Again, shameful.

Only the second time a President has fired the FBI director in history. Just when I think my opinion of Trump cannot get any lower.

I had previously thought that there was nothing to the Russia thing... that it should be investigated, but that the investigation would not find any evidence of wrongdoing. Now I'm not so sure.

 

[colton]

Hey wait a second...I thought Modscpuldnt have posters on ignore?!

Incorrect.

Also, wouldn't a mod havingaposter on ignore be evidence of bias against a poster in case of future events?

No

 

[Stoked]

This coming from the guy who continually refuses to answer direct questions is highly rich.

I'm a repub? What? LMFAO at Thriller. Not to mention I wasn't even part of this convo or even think Thriller is worth a discussion.

I agree with the general vibe going on here. Sure he can fire him but the timing is highly suspicious. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I want an independent investigation into all this. One that the Rs and Ds cannot mess with more than they already are.

 

[fishonjazz]

I'm a repub? What? LMFAO at Thriller. Not to mention I wasn't even part of this convo or even think Thriller is worth a discussion.

I agree with the general vibe going on here. Sure he can fire him but the timing is highly suspicious. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I want an independent investigation into all this. One that the Rs and Ds cannot mess with more than they already are.

Isn't the FBI non partisan/independent?

 

[colton]

Isn't the FBI non partisan/independent?

Probably depends on who Trump appoints as the new director.

I read that Comey was the first FBI director to ever have a negative vote for confirmation. He had a single negative vote (by Rand Paul, I believe, not sure the reasons why). And that's the MOST negative votes ever! Who thinks the next director will be anywhere close to that?

 

[Deleted member 848]

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/fbi/332856-comey-wouldnt-preview-senate-testimony-to-trump-report

Didn't we have someone in the legal community on the board?

How normal is this?
How appropriate is this?

A red flag certainly pops up(at least in my mind) if I'm providing testimony about what I've seen my boss doing, and he asks to preview what I'm going to tell people.

sirkickyass is a lawyer.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Isn't the FBI non partisan/independent?

they really, really aren't. I suppose on paper they should be but in reality they're not. The existence, and boundaries of what the FBI can or can't do are very much restricted by policy, so they have a stake in havin vested interests towards certain politicians and parties (primarily Republicans, Democrats to a lesser extent-- they are generally very very anti left-wing politics).

 

[DutchJazzer]

and Trump PRAISED Comey on the campaign trail.

Your point is moot as always.

Just because Dems wanted him gone, doesn't excuse the fact that this is suspicious as hell.

but when you are a supporter of Donald Trump you have to constantly look for ways to deflect, and frame his ridiculous actions.

He's the worst ever, and folks it's not going to get better from here.

yeah, i am not unconditionally on trump's side. ofcourse as a foreigner most of **** he does. does not influence me! i agree he sometimes is ideologically inconsistent!

but let's be hones do you think comey was a capable fbi director from what we know?

meaning do you agree he should not be director. but you disagree with the timing of his firing?

 

[Stoked]

Isn't the FBI non partisan/independent?

Probably depends on who Trump appoints as the new director.

I read that Comey was the first FBI director to ever have a negative vote for confirmation. He had a single negative vote (by Rand Paul, I believe, not sure the reasons why). And that's the MOST negative votes ever! Who thinks the next director will be anywhere close to that?

This, plus we just saw how bad it looked when Trump fired him. What if the next director wins the job by promising the President no further investigations?

 

[Harambe]

yeah, i am not unconditionally on trump's side. ofcourse as a foreigner most of **** he does. does not influence me! i agree he sometimes is ideologically inconsistent!

but let's be hones do you think comey was a capable fbi director from what we know?

meaning do you agree he should not be director. but you disagree with the timing of his firing?

Personal Foul; Deflection. Secondary offense; obfuscation.

Trump has purposefully stalled the investigation of his collusion with Russia.

 

[fishonjazz]

This, plus we just saw how bad it looked when Trump fired him. What if the next director wins the job by promising the President no further investigations?

So then who should do the investigation? Is there anyone who doesn't lean a little right or left, that doesn't have an opinion on trump, that can't be corrupted or influenced?

Sounds like a search for a unicorn.

 

[Stoked]

So then who should do the investigation? Is there anyone who doesn't lean a little right or left, that doesn't have an opinion on trump, that can't be corrupted or influenced?

Sounds like a search for a unicorn.

There is always going to be bias, but I don't want the investigation under the Rs or Ds direct control. Like Comey was under Trump's control. Yes they will have to report updates and findings to congress but I don't want them running the show or being able to control the person that is.

No, I don't expect it to happen and as such I am skeptical and suspicious of any finding that are released. Both sides are garbage