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I get how Pete was so likable but he blew in the one debate I saw. Sorry but he would not wipe the floor with Trump. Sort of laughable tbh. Trump’s an epic moron but his style of debate, if you can call it that, is why many people loved him.

So far as the only thing going against him being gay…no. Sorry, he was completely unimpressive in the one debate I saw. Moreover, libs can’t have it both ways and cry hard about every perceived act of racism and then turn a blind eye to dude’s city where racism and his poor handling of it has been a very real issue.
 


Keefe said:
I get how Pete was so likable but he blew in the one debate I saw. Sorry but he would not wipe the floor with Trump. Sort of laughable tbh. Trump’s an epic moron but his style of debate, if you can call it that, is why many people loved him.

So far as the only thing going against him being gay…no. Sorry, he was completely unimpressive in the one debate I saw. Moreover, libs can’t have it both ways and cry hard about every perceived act of racism and then turn a blind eye to dude’s city where racism and his poor handling of it has been a very real issue.
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I think there is a good chance he'll be better in his next big stage debate. He's actually not an octogenarian politician so his debate skills are still on the upswing.
I believe I remember hearing about issues in his city on racism... because he's from Indiana and racism is like a pastime there. Was the issue that he turned a blind eye, failed to effect change, or contributed to the racism?
 
Keefe said:
I get how Pete was so likable but he blew in the one debate I saw. Sorry but he would not wipe the floor with Trump. Sort of laughable tbh. Trump’s an epic moron but his style of debate, if you can call it that, is why many people loved him.

So far as the only thing going against him being gay…no. Sorry, he was completely unimpressive in the one debate I saw. Moreover, libs can’t have it both ways and cry hard about every perceived act of racism and then turn a blind eye to dude’s city where racism and his poor handling of it has been a very real issue.
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Man the debate I saw him in he was incredible. Blew my mind how well he did. And the guy he was debating with was acting like trump would. Pete destroyed him. It was amazing. Wish I knew how to find it and I would post it.
 
fishonjazz said:
Man i would love it if pete ran. Get him into some debates against his opponent. They would have no chance against against him


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The real downside to Pete running is that the bigoted attacks on him, his family, and the LGBT community would be insane. He hasn’t declared himself a candidate and Tucker is already attacking him. We all know why Mayor Pete probably hesitated to come out of the closet.


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Gameface said:
So do you think that's a legit reason for him to not run?
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I would love for him to run. I’d vote for him. But I do have concerns about:

1. His EC electability. I wouldn’t as much if we based our presidential election on the popular vote. But since states like Georgia, Wisconsin, Arizona, Ohio, and Pennsylvania determine our elections, I think we strongly need to consider sexism, racism, and homophobia.

2. Unfortunately, his family would witness one of the ugliest political campaigns in modern-day history. If we thought the bigotry against Obama was bad? Imagine a gay married man. He and his partner will be accused of everything from trampling god to raping children. We see a preview of what’s to come with how republicans treat teachers, trans students, and librarians today.

3. The LGBT community will be placed in an even hotter and brighter spotlight, for both good and bad. There will be rewards for sure. But I really fear for that vulnerable population, especially once MAGA media gets going. MAGA media still tortures Seth Rich’s poor family. The cruelty is like sweet nectar to MAGA. The cruelty often is the point.

Do I want him to run? Absolutely. But I also recognize that everything but his policies will be focused on. The cruelty, bigotry, and hate he, his family, and the LGBT community will endure might dissuade him from running. We’ll see!
 
The Thriller said:
I would love for him to run. I’d vote for him. But I do have concerns about:

1. His EC electability. I wouldn’t as much if we based our presidential election on the popular vote. But since states like Georgia, Wisconsin, Arizona, Ohio, and Pennsylvania determine our elections, I think we strongly need to consider sexism, racism, and homophobia.

2. Unfortunately, his family would witness one of the ugliest political campaigns in modern-day history. If we thought the bigotry against Obama was bad? Imagine a gay married man. He and his partner will be accused of everything from trampling god to raping children. We see a preview of what’s to come with how republicans treat teachers, trans students, and librarians today.

3. The LGBT community will be placed in an even hotter and brighter spotlight, for both good and bad. There will be rewards for sure. But I really fear for that vulnerable population, especially once MAGA media gets going. MAGA media still tortures Seth Rich’s poor family. The cruelty is like sweet nectar to MAGA. The cruelty often is the point.

Do I want him to run? Absolutely. But I also recognize that everything but his policies will be focused on. The cruelty, bigotry, and hate he, his family, and the LGBT community will endure might dissuade him from running. We’ll see!
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Very good post thriller.


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Gameface said:
I think there is a good chance he'll be better in his next big stage debate. He's actually not an octogenarian politician so his debate skills are still on the upswing.
I believe I remember hearing about issues in his city on racism... because he's from Indiana and racism is like a pastime there. Was the issue that he turned a blind eye, failed to effect change, or contributed to the racism?
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Here’s one article. There are a bunch on it.

www.pbs.org

Buttigieg's rocky record on race gets a closer look

Buttigieg, who spent eight years as mayor of South Bend, Indiana, has tripped up in recent days as he was grilled about his record.
www.pbs.org www.pbs.org

That said, I agree with your points on his debating. He was young. Live and learn.
 
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Keefe said:
Here’s one article. There are a bunch on it.

www.pbs.org

Buttigieg's rocky record on race gets a closer look

Buttigieg, who spent eight years as mayor of South Bend, Indiana, has tripped up in recent days as he was grilled about his record.
www.pbs.org www.pbs.org

That said, I agree with your points debating. He was young. Live and learn.
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I really hate the power that debating has in our political system tbh. One of the best leaders I ever met was a terrible public speaker and avoided it whenever he could. He obviously did well enough but he would have sucked in a debate format. Look at the **** that come out of the debates, like "binders full of women" that the media and the opposition latches onto. I get we need a forum for the public to get to know the candidates better but the debate is a poor representation of who those people are and what they are capable of. Mostly it measure how effective they are at 1) exciting the voting base and 2) generating sound bites. It isn't a good measure of them as a leader.
 
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