That depends upon where you live and what you value. Biden has gotten a few things done, here in Illinois we got a few more, Minnesota is hitting the ball out of the park.Like what, all the things the dems have failed to deliver on?
That depends upon where you live and what you value. Biden has gotten a few things done, here in Illinois we got a few more, Minnesota is hitting the ball out of the park.Like what, all the things the dems have failed to deliver on?
Weird. And suddenly mongoose reappears! What a coincidenceWeird, mongoose just disappeared and all of a sudden we are bombarded by steakandeggs. Where is mongoose to back him up!
Think whatever simple minded thing you want. It doesn’t matter to me. I know you think there’s only a tiny fraction of people out there that disagree with you because you spend your time here in an echo chamber obsessing about your alter ego, but reality is your views and opinions are in the small minority. I mean have you seen the viewing numbers for cnn?Weird. And suddenly mongoose reappears! What a coincidence
Wanna bet a permanent ban that I'm not mongoose? Mod ban me straight up if I am mongoose. I'll admit I did slightly spam but there is a lot to unload on the hoax you all pathologically pushed for 6 years now. A LOT! The irony of you constantly calling me a victim but you run straight to a mod. Who's the real victim here? Not me Thriller.And insults and posts exactly the way jazzy would.
Pretty sure spamming the forum using multiple accounts is at least discouraged if not in violation of forum rules. Right? Can I get a mod to confirm? Genuinely curious.
****** bored people unhappy with their lives get their jollies off trolling others online.
I see a difference in style and political positions.And insults and posts exactly the way jazzy would.
I see a difference in style and political positions.
So folks that aren't you and your group aren't allowed to share similar opinions? I guess this is what you are being taught politically and socially that folks you disagree with should not be allowed to express opinions. They should be quieted by force if you disagree with them, is that right? Because a couple of posters here don't sound exactly like you and they don't say exactly the same things as you and your buddies, they are a problem. Should there be some punishment for making false accusations, because there is someone here that you disagree with?Well ya, he is going to try to be a bit different of course to not be obvious.
I too see a difference between them. But also see many many similarities. I also see how they dont post at the same time…… well until someone pointed out that they dont post at the same time. Then of course right after it was pointed out suddenly they were posting at the same time.
I dont know if they are the same person but there is enough there to warrant an investigation imo.
Obama was president since 2009 and Bush was also hesitant to send weapons to Ukraine as president before him, like I mentioned. They did send aid reluctantly at the behest of the MIC and low and behold the conflict with Russia escalated.Since Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, there was not much to escalate.
If we had not armed Ukraine, it would now be a Russian province. Tyrants and dictators don't respect military weakness; they exploit it.Obama was president since 2009 and Bush was also hesitant to send weapons to Ukraine as president before him, like I mentioned. They did send aid reluctantly at the behest of the MIC and low and behold the conflict with Russia escalated.
Exactly! Russia was doing what Russia does. It is what they did when they attacked Chechnya. It is what they did when they attacked Georgia. It is what they did when they attacked Crimea. The initial shipment of weapons to Ukraine are what stopped Russia, and Russia stayed stopped until Biden projected weakness by publicly stating that America would allow Russia to attack Ukraine so long as it was only a "minor incursion".If we had not armed Ukraine, it would now be a Russian province. Tyrants and dictators don't respect military weakness; they exploit it.
Why do you think Bush and Obama and Trump were all hesitant and reluctant to send arms to them then? Do you think those presidents failed by not arming Ukraine to the teeth while they were in office?If we had not armed Ukraine, it would now be a Russian province. Tyrants and dictators don't respect military weakness; they exploit it.
One of those Presidents was different than the other two. Neither Bush or Obama would agree to sending lethal aid to Ukraine. Trump did send arms. The perceived hesitation from Trump over arms shipments was from his apparent attempt at a quid pro quo to get information on the corruption of the Bidens during the Obama administration. It wasn't from fear things would escalate.Why do you think Bush and Obama and Trump were all hesitant and reluctant to send arms to them then? Do you think those presidents failed by not arming Ukraine to the teeth while they were in office?
One of those Presidents was different than the other two. Neither Bush or Obama would agree to sending lethal aid to Ukraine. Trump did send arms. The perceived hesitation from Trump over arms shipments was from his apparent attempt at a quid pro quo to get information on the corruption of the Bidens during the Obama administration. It wasn't from fear things would escalate.
History has proved Trump's actions at arming the Ukrainians correct. That period was the only period in which Russia didn't invade one of its neighbors.
View: https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1499055907099099153
Then Biden came in to office, okayed a "minor incursion" into Ukraine and now we have a lot of dead people. Thanks Joe!
1) Putin had not made his most aggressive moves in the timeframe you are discussing.Why do you think Bush and Obama and Trump were all hesitant and reluctant to send arms to them then?
No. Things change, and policies must adapt to the changes.Do you think those presidents failed by not arming Ukraine to the teeth while they were in office?
Attacking Kiev would not be (and was not) a "minor incursion", regardless."I think what you're going to see is that Russia will be held accountable if it invades. And it depends on what it does. It's one thing if it's a minor incursion and then we end up having a fight about what to do and not do." -President Biden Jan. 19,2022
36 day after President Biden expressed military wishy-washiness, Russia rolled in to Ukraine.
Obama was still president in 2014, why not send them the weapons after the revolution?1) Putin had not made his most aggressive moves in the timeframe you are discussing.
2) Until the 2014 revolution, Ukraine was exceptionally corrupt.
No. Things change, and policies must adapt to the changes.
Sometimes revolutions reduce corruption, sometimes they increase it. I'm sure that level of corruption was not the only reason.Obama was still president in 2014, why not send them the weapons after the revolution?
Yes I'm sure Obama had righteous reasons or perhaps he didn't have enough selfish reasons to send aid and weapons. If only he had listened to those war machine humanitarians.Sometimes revolutions reduce corruption, sometimes they increase it. I'm sure that level of corruption was not the only reason.
Not at all. What I'm saying is that your claimed motivation is an ahistorical revisionist fantasy. There is zero evidence that Trump was fearful of escalation. The phone call to Zelensky wasn't Trump claiming he had the weapons, the greatest weapons really. The weapons are so good, but they can't be sent. Trump wanted to send the weapons but his advisors said no. It would escalate conflict they said.That’s interesting… so you don’t see his hesitation to send weapons until he had selfish reasons to send them as hesitation then? That’s an interesting take- tell me more.