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Weren't you just liking and laughing at post just YESTERDAY with @Rubashov and @str8line saying they wanted to put Trump up against a wall and shoot him? Literally yesterday.... Less than 24 hours ago? You guys literally just yesterday were saying it's ok to kill a political rival. Another day, more hypocrisy.

"I'm going to give you a chance to say ... if you stay by it: If the president decides that his rival is a corrupt person and he orders the military, or orders someone, to assassinate him -- is that within his official acts for which he can get immunity?" she asked during oral arguments.

"It would depend on the hypothetical," Sauer answered. "We could see that could well be an official act."
Idk. Show me the post.

Anywho, yep trumps own lawyers said he should be immune from prosecution if he assassinated his political opponent. Nice we can agree on that.

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Yep, they made it immeasurably easier for Biden to do exactly that and go after his political rival for no reason at all. Let's see the mental gymnastics the right will go through to spin this one around.
You were right about the mental gymnastics


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Nope
Being under indictment means being under indictment. That already happened. He is under indictment. He hasn't been prosecuted yet. That hasn't happened and isn't currently happening. Let's say trump wins the election and never goes to trial. Let's say the judges throw out the cases. That would mean he was never prosecuted.



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If he wins he will obviously just pardon himself. And I give about even odds on him then jailing his political opponents for no reason, again issuing himself and all involved pardons. Look for the police state to ramp up pretty damn fast. Good thing I recently picked up a couple of cases of target ammo. Who knows when it may be needed if Trump were to win. The movie Civil War will be much closer to reality then.
 
The movie Civil War will be much closer to reality then.
As I've said bloodthirsty. My side doesn't want one like you guys. You're borderline obsessed with it. No... We do not lust and crave and obsess and want violence like you. @str8line who's the threat? The left craves blood.
 
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Nixon resigned shortly after a recording was released from his secret Oval Office taping system. An example of how today, when a president’s motives in an official duty being not open for questions, the outcome might have been different. Nixon’s obvious criminal activity, in service to his re-election, would likely be protected.


The new ruling, in effect, decriminalizes Nixon’s conduct during the Watergate scandal. As Chief Justice John Roberts explains in the majority opinion, a “President is absolutely immune from criminal prosecution for conduct within his exclusive sphere of constitutional authority.” Nixon’s activities fit right in the sphere that the Court broadly defines as “official” or “outer perimeter” behavior. According to the Court, only “unofficial conduct” is subject to prosecution.

The high court is leaving it to the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia to determine whether Donald Trump’s conduct related to January 6, 2021, is immune, with one exception: The Court held that Trump’s conversations with his acting attorney general, which were included in his indictment as part of his scheme to overturn his election defeat, were off-limits. The Court ruled that conversations with top Justice Department attorneys qualify as official conduct and are thus precluded from criminal prosecution. In addition, the Court held that no evidence relating to such official conduct, or “outer perimeter” conduct, can be used by prosecutors. This expands criminal immunity to theoretically provide maximum protection to the institution of the presidency, because it effectively precludes establishing a president’s state of mind, which is crucial to proving criminal conduct.

While reading Roberts’s opinion, I could not escape thinking about Nixon’s “smoking gun” tape. Nixon decided to resign after a secret recording of his Oval Office conversation with his chief of staff surfaced on August 5, 1974, a bit more than two years after scandal had erupted with the June 17, 1972, arrest of operatives from Nixon’s reelection committee for breaking into the Democratic National Committee offices at the Watergate complex. This conversation, which the Watergate special prosecutor had subpoenaed and the Supreme Court had unanimously ordered Nixon to produce, ended his presidency. Here was conclusive proof of his involvement in the cover-up from the outset.

Today’s Supreme Court would likely call Nixon’s recorded actions on June 23, 1972, six days after the arrests at the Watergate, “official conduct.” What could be more official than Nixon doing what only a president had the power to do by ordering his chief of staff to tell the CIA to block the FBI’s Watergate investigation? Under Trump v. United States, Nixon’s motive is to be ignored.
 
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If he wins he will obviously just pardon himself. And I give about even odds on him then jailing his political opponents for no reason, again issuing himself and all involved pardons. Look for the police state to ramp up pretty damn fast. Good thing I recently picked up a couple of cases of target ammo. Who knows when it may be needed if Trump were to win. The movie Civil War will be much closer to reality then.

The Trump SS will begin the round up of Jews, ahem, Mexicans and then we're off to the races.
 
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Nixon resigned shortly after a recording was released from his secret Oval Office taping system. An example of how today, when a president’s motives in an official duty being not open for questions, the outcome might have been different. Nixon’s obvious criminal activity, in service to his re-election, would likely be protected.


The new ruling, in effect, decriminalizes Nixon’s conduct during the Watergate scandal. As Chief Justice John Roberts explains in the majority opinion, a “President is absolutely immune from criminal prosecution for conduct within his exclusive sphere of constitutional authority.” Nixon’s activities fit right in the sphere that the Court broadly defines as “official” or “outer perimeter” behavior. According to the Court, only “unofficial conduct” is subject to prosecution.

The high court is leaving it to the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia to determine whether Donald Trump’s conduct related to January 6, 2021, is immune, with one exception: The Court held that Trump’s conversations with his acting attorney general, which were included in his indictment as part of his scheme to overturn his election defeat, were off-limits. The Court ruled that conversations with top Justice Department attorneys qualify as official conduct and are thus precluded from criminal prosecution. In addition, the Court held that no evidence relating to such official conduct, or “outer perimeter” conduct, can be used by prosecutors. This expands criminal immunity to theoretically provide maximum protection to the institution of the presidency, because it effectively precludes establishing a president’s state of mind, which is crucial to proving criminal conduct.

While reading Roberts’s opinion, I could not escape thinking about Nixon’s “smoking gun” tape. Nixon decided to resign after a secret recording of his Oval Office conversation with his chief of staff surfaced on August 5, 1974, a bit more than two years after scandal had erupted with the June 17, 1972, arrest of operatives from Nixon’s reelection committee for breaking into the Democratic National Committee offices at the Watergate complex. This conversation, which the Watergate special prosecutor had subpoenaed and the Supreme Court had unanimously ordered Nixon to produce, ended his presidency. Here was conclusive proof of his involvement in the cover-up from the outset.

Today’s Supreme Court would likely call Nixon’s recorded actions on June 23, 1972, six days after the arrests at the Watergate, “official conduct.” What could be more official than Nixon doing what only a president had the power to do by ordering his chief of staff to tell the CIA to block the FBI’s Watergate investigation? Under Trump v. United States, Nixon’s motive is to be ignored.
This.

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If he wins he will obviously just pardon himself. And I give about even odds on him then jailing his political opponents for no reason, again issuing himself and all involved pardons. Look for the police state to ramp up pretty damn fast. Good thing I recently picked up a couple of cases of target ammo. Who knows when it may be needed if Trump were to win. The movie Civil War will be much closer to reality then.
Perhaps more likely have his AG drop all charges? Doesn’t a pardon imply acceptance of guilt?
 
Nixon’s activities fit right in the sphere that the Court broadly defines as “official” or “outer perimeter” behavior. According to the Court, only “unofficial conduct” is subject to prosecution.
So-called "outer perimeter" acts are subject to prosecution, but there is a preliminary hearing required where the prosecutors have to prove the prosecution poses no dangers of intrusion on the authority and functions of the Executive Branch.

Here is the actual wording of the decision:

"Taking into account these competing considerations, we conclude that the separation of powers principles explicated in our precedent necessitate at least a presumptive immunity from criminal prosecution for a President’s acts within the outer perimeter of his official responsibility. Such an immunity is required to safeguard the independence and effective functioning of the Executive Branch, and to enable the President to carry out his constitutional duties without undue caution. Indeed, if presumptive protection for the President is necessary to enable the “effective discharge” of his powers when a prosecutor merely seeks evidence of his official papers and communications, id., at 711, it is certainly necessary when the prosecutor seeks to charge, try, and imprison the President himself for his official actions. At a minimum, the President must therefore be immune from prosecution for an official act unless the Government can show that applying a criminal prohibition to that act would pose no “dangers of intrusion on the authority and functions of the Executive Branch.”"


That is not a super high bar to have to clear. @Red, read the ruling. You are falling for fictions.
 
Perhaps more likely have his AG drop all charges? Doesn’t a pardon imply acceptance of guilt?
Yeah but he won't care at that point. He'll have supreme power and that's all he cares about.
 
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