Donald Trump

[Gameface]

You and Gameface must live in North Korea.

Naw, I just don't attend very many klan rallies.

 

[JimLes]

You know, we have a Trump of our own and everytime he wins an election, I kinda wish I voted him so I could have vote the winner at least once in my lifetime.

I've voted in at least a dozen local and federal elections in my life time and not once did my candidate get elected. The party I voted for won one of those 12 times, but that's about it.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

No but I can read and understand data.

Please point out to me where I've argued that government provision of services is in all cases high quality? That the DMV may not work well at times is irrelevant to the discussion, particularly when one has actual data one can use, as opposed to anecdotes.

I suppose, then, that if I pointed out anecdotes of poor efficiency and service delivery by certain private sector firms, you'd find that a compelling reason to conclude that the private sector is inherently inefficient. That is, at least, what the logic of your argument suggest.

Neither am I necessarily suggesting the US should move to a single payer system; what I want is a reasonable, rational policy debate about health care policy, which isn't possible given the current environment created by Republican dog whistle pandering to it's angry white person base.

My impression is that the service I receive from government entities is significantly worse than the service I receive from the private sector. If a private sector company imitated DMV's service practices they would soon be out of business.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

My impression is that the service I receive from government entities is significantly worse than the service I receive from the private sector. If a private sector company imitated DMV's service practices they would soon be out of business.

How many private businesses have you interacted with that are funded by public funds and must adhere for public procurement procedures? There's a reason its slow and inefficient, it's called tax payer accountability. It adds many layers of bureaucracy to every publicly funded and operated entity. So when people say that the private sector could do it better and faster, they really have no ****ing clue what they're talking about. FYI.

 

[Gameface]

The DMV has been pretty phenomenal the last 4 times I've had to go there.

 

[addictionary]

 

[fishonjazz]

The DMV has been pretty phenomenal the last 4 times I've had to go there.

Ya, they have got things turned around.

Not bad at all anymore

 

[JAZZGASM]

How many private businesses have you interacted with that are funded by public funds and must adhere for public procurement procedures? There's a reason its slow and inefficient, it's called tax payer accountability. It adds many layers of bureaucracy to every publicly funded and operated entity. So when people say that the private sector could do it better and faster, they really have no ****ing clue what they're talking about. FYI.

Some private businesses offer DMV Services in California. After registering my first car at the CA DMV ****show, I went to AAA for my wife's car and was in and out in no time at all.

 

[Deleted member 848]

My impression is that the service I receive from government entities is significantly worse than the service I receive from the private sector.

Unfortunately when you have all services becoming private entities, rights become privileges.

 

[Gameface]

If anyone thinks the DMV doesn't care and hasn't tried to improve customer service, you should have gone to the same DMV 20 years ago. Serving a smaller population they did a much worse job. They are trying. The people I've dealt with were very courteous, competent and efficient. I've been to the Taylorsville location and the Point of the Mountain location. Both awesome.

The **** they do is something no private company would ever want to do. I bet AAA will deal with the easy **** and tell you that you need to actually go to the DMV the second your situation is complicated.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

How many private businesses have you interacted with that are funded by public funds and must adhere for public procurement procedures? There's a reason its slow and inefficient, it's called tax payer accountability. It adds many layers of bureaucracy to every publicly funded and operated entity. So when people say that the private sector could do it better and faster, they really have no ****ing clue what they're talking about. FYI.

My ex wife worked for the health department. Her coworkers talked about the public with contempt. They bragged about golfing during working hours, setting files aside when business owners frustrated them, etc. I do not think that these sorts of things are because of increased accountability. The delays at the DMV have nothing to do with the issues you state. They US Post office does not have long lines because of accountability. The lines are long because it makes no difference to anyone at the post office to open up another window when there are a lot of customers waiting. On the opposite side of the spectrum, the grocery store down the street from me immediately opens another checkstand any time three or more people are in line. Are they able to do this because they don't have tax payer accountability?

 

[BabyPeterzz]

My ex wife worked for the health department. Her coworkers talked about the public with contempt. They bragged about golfing during working hours, setting files aside when business owners frustrated them, etc. I do not think that these sorts of things are because of increased accountability. The delays at the DMV have nothing to do with the issues you state. They US Post office does not have long lines because of accountability. The lines are long because it makes no difference to anyone at the post office to open up another window when there are a lot of customers waiting. On the opposite side of the spectrum, the grocery store down the street from me immediately opens another checkstand any time three or more people are in line. Are they able to do this because they don't have tax payer accountability?

While your personal anecdotes are great stories, they in no way represent the system as a whole. I'm sorry your wife worked with assholes, but that happens in the private sector too. If you're so unhappy with your service at the post office, why not go to fedex or UPS instead. Cost you say? Yeah, unfortunately good stuff costs money, and under paid, stressed out public employees sometimes don't give a **** about your feelings. Get over it, or go to bat to increase pay and service for public institutions. As for all the other stuff, yeah most of that is due to limited resources and/or laziness. Boo hoo.


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