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Millsapa said:
Is this highly respectful anti-war sentiment a myth?
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Initially, one brow (and I) were attacking the generalization you made. There are literally millions of pacifists and anti-war activists who wouldn't spit on soldiers. Grouping them in with violent, disrespectful thugs and punks is extremely insulting, and is a perfect illustration of just how ignorant and hateful you are.

You are what's wrong with America.
 
GVC said:
Initially, one brow (and I) were attacking the generalization you made. There are literally millions of pacifists and anti-war activists who wouldn't spit on soldiers. Grouping them in with violent, disrespectful thugs and punks is extremely insulting, and is a perfect illustration of just how ignorant and hateful you are.

You are what's wrong with America.
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Is this sort of insult tolerated on Jazzfanz?

I saw my comments as attacking this generalization made by unibrow:

Being anti-war is one of the best ways to show your love and respect for our military. Disparaging anti-war sentiments shows a fundamental disdain for their lives and sacrifices.
 
But being anti-war is one of the best ways to show your love and respect for our military. What a few thugs choose to do doesn't change that.

And you started with the insults by generalizing all "liberals",, those who consider themselves as "anti-war", and homosexuals.

Go ahead and report my post if you'd like. Someone needs to call you out for being a hateful, willfully ignorant war monger (and complete jackass).
 
GVC said:
But being anti-war is one of the best ways to show your love and respect for our military. What a few thugs choose to do doesn't change that.

And you started with the insults by generalizing all "liberals",, those who consider themselves as "anti-war", and homosexuals.

Go ahead and report my post if you'd like. Someone needs to call you out for being a hateful, willfully ignorant war monger (and complete jackass).
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Those "thugs" were being anti-war.

What leads you to believe I'm a war-monger?
Are homosexuals war mongers for joining the military?
 
Question 1: Is serving in the armed forces one of the best ways to serve your country?

Question 2: Does the existence of a very small number of rapists and murderers of innocent civilians in the armed forces change your answer to question 1?

Question 3: Do you get it now?
 
I'm buzzed and not lucid enough to read and process this thread right now but my dad served in Vietnam (he still barely talks about it) and is a pacifist I would say.
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
I'm buzzed and not lucid enough to read and process this thread right now but my dad served in Vietnam (he still barely talks about it) and is a pacifist I would say.
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Looks to me like lucidity is not a requirement for posting. And buzzed or not, you make more sense.

I understand the statement that opposing an unconstituional and unwise war is something that does "support" the proper use of military, which is not suppression of people in other countries who may present problems for "our" international corportates/oil cartels/ oil pipeline and drilling corporates like Cheney's Halliburton.

Being a "pacifist" opposed to useless foreign wars is not the same thing as being opposed to national security for Americans and protecting our freedom.
 
There are so many things that could potentially affect cohesiveness. People can have prejudive over race, background, where you live, religious background, or what you like. If you are professional though, you learn to get along, and work with others that are different. Let's face it there are a lot of things that can divide us besides being gay or straight. It's about how you carry yourself. If you are a solider you have a specific set of requirements. You aren't allowed to be sexual on duty in the military anyways. Things have changed. Watch AFN for 1 hour and you will see three commercials about sexual harrassment.

If a gay man or women is professional, and meets the requirements it's not his problem. If other people have a problem with someone different then they
are the ones hurting the group cohesiveness.
 
GVC said:
You equated being anti-war with spitting on, and generally not supporting, American soldiers.
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I was attacking the idea that anti-war protesters showed their love and respect for the troops through their actions. They're mostly just politically motivated. You'll notice wars still continuing with Obama as president and yet not a peep out of the anti-war crowd.
 
babe said:
Looks to me like lucidity is not a requirement for posting. And buzzed or not, you make more sense.

I understand the statement that opposing an unconstituional and unwise war is something that does "support" the proper use of military, which is not suppression of people in other countries who may present problems for "our" international corportates/oil cartels/ oil pipeline and drilling corporates like Cheney's Halliburton.

Being a "pacifist" opposed to useless foreign wars is not the same thing as being opposed to national security for Americans and protecting our freedom.
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How does the military protect our freedoms? and how do they do so without engaging in wars with those who want to kill Americans?
 
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