Drug Deaths

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

They need to stop blaming drugs for problems. Drugs just do what they do. Our energy and funds should be focused on helping people properly address their trauma, both physical and mental.

Stop incarcerating people for drug offenses. Stop adding more trauma to already traumatized people. If people self-medicate with the wrong drug, or the wrong dose, ****ing help them.

So many Christians are in love with Les Miserables. They will watch the films, go to several live productions, talk about performers, read the book, Etc. They adore the idea of Jean Valjean. But they refuse to sacrifice their candlesticks and/or not prosecute. They want the "mighty change" to happen without showing any forgiveness for the crimes that addicted people commit.

 

[Deleted member 95]

Anyone here ever try kratom?

Yes. It sneaks up on you. Anyone that claims it's a miracle drug that's not addicting is still in the delusional phase. It got so bad for me the shakes started to occur 2 hours after a dose. I quit cold turkey and the withdrawals were some the worst I've ever experienced. Don't do it unless your only alternative is something like heroin.

 

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

4) Legalization with regulation seems like the best course of action as it would bring the people out of the shadows and make it easier to allocate more of the treatment cost to distributors/manufacturers/users.

Exactly.

 

[Scat]

Yes. It sneaks up on you. Anyone that claims it's a miracle drug that's not addicting is still in the delusional phase. It got so bad for me the shakes started to occur 2 hours after a dose. I quit cold turkey and the withdrawals were some the worst I've ever experienced. Don't do it unless your only alternative is something like heroin.

How large of a dose were you taking?

 

[colton]

I've read that CBD oil is good for pain, but I suspect that's only for mild, arthritis-type pain. Has anyone here used it for pain?

My wife tried it but it didn't help with her chronic pain. From what I've read it does help some people.

 

[Rubashov]

Seen a heap of really bad outcomes from synthetic marijuana too, people have actually died from it. Im with most people in supporting some form of legalization, no idea how it will work in reality tho, I already pay 40 bucks for a packet of smokes and pints of beer are between 10 and 14 bucks each, so legalization may lead to an increase in price...

 

[colton]

When it comes to abuse of opioids I don't think it's a pain management issue, it's a mental health management issue.

While they may have started taking opioids because of some pain issue, the folks that get hooked on this stuff are suffering from some type of undiagnosed clinical depression.

For what it's worth CBD oil is not an opioid.

 

[Deleted member 95]

How large of a dose were you taking?

Started at 5 g/day and eventually got to 12-15g/day. When I quit I was around 20-25g a day. I felt like everyone else thinking it was amazing. At about the 4~ish month mark I knew I was probably in trouble. Is it as bad/addicting as hard core drugs? No. Am I being a little dramatic? Probably, but I've seen enough from myself and others it's best not to mess with it unless you have too. Guess that's obvious for most though. Seen too many going into it just to dabble because of their friends thinking it's harmless and it's not.

 

[candrew]

For what it's worth CBD oil is not an opioid.

Right. What I meant is an alternative to opioids may not be a solution to the problem because it isn't addressing the root cause.

Then again I could be wrong either way, lol.

 

[Scat]

Started at 5 g/day and eventually got to 12-15g/day. When I quit I was around 20-25g a day. I felt like everyone else thinking it was amazing. At about the 4~ish month mark I knew I was probably in trouble. Is it as bad/addicting as hard core drugs? No. Am I being a little dramatic? Probably, but I've seen enough from myself and others it's best not to mess with it unless you have too. Guess that's obvious for most though. Seen too many going into it just to dabble because of their friends thinking it's harmless and it's not.

Holy crap, that's a lot! From everything I have read 3-4 grams should be the max and you should work up to that.

 

[JazzGal]

My coworker's husband has Parkinsons and other issues and has found that CBD oil works well on his back pain. I may try it at some point. How much would it cost to bathe in it? Some days the only things that don't hurt are my earlobes.

 

[MVP]

I once was talking to ER doctor at the party. Asked what is the most common emergency he sees these days - his answer was fentanyl overdose by far. And he said it is most frustrating to treat and save some addicts just to get them OD few weeks later. Situation is really bad.