Election Count Issues

[fishonjazz]

Romney is just a real dude. Would have made a great president.

Yep. I was with family at a parade in payson. I don't think it was even a real holiday or anything either (onion days or something weird). Just a local celebration in the small town of payson where my parents live (and my dad was born and raised).
So I'm watching the parade and all of a sudden there's mitt romney walking down the street in the parade waving and throwing out candy. No bodyguards or secret service. No announcement before the parade that he would be there.
He was totally non chalant and not seeking attention. Just wanted to show his love to those in attendence

It was awesome.

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[Archie Moses]

The biggest election count issue is Trump lost and his supporters can't hack it.

Dude lost. Dude is a narcissistic and mentally ill man.

Life will go on.

 

[LogGrad98]

The biggest election count issue is Trump lost and his supporters can't hack it.

Dude lost. Dude is a narcissistic and mentally ill man.

Life will go on.

Not for the woman who died in the attack on the capital. Trump is now responsible for a death in all this ****. He needs to go to prison.

 

[One Brow]

Hannity (and several Fox News employees) testified in court that they never believed in the vote count conspiracies.

In Testimony, Hannity and Other Fox Employees Said They Doubted Trump's Fraud Claims

On Nov. 30, 2020, Sean Hannity hosted Sidney Powell on his prime-time Fox News program. As she had in many other interviews around that time — on Fox and elsewhere in right-wing media — Powell, a former federal prosecutor, spun wild conspiracy theories about what she said was “corruption all...

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[fishonjazz]

Hannity (and several Fox News employees) testified in court that they never believed in the vote count conspiracies.

In Testimony, Hannity and Other Fox Employees Said They Doubted Trump's Fraud Claims

On Nov. 30, 2020, Sean Hannity hosted Sidney Powell on his prime-time Fox News program. As she had in many other interviews around that time — on Fox and elsewhere in right-wing media — Powell, a former federal prosecutor, spun wild conspiracy theories about what she said was “corruption all...

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They are like the WWE of news reporting.


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[Red]

They are like the WWE of news reporting.


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No wonder they’re the most watched….

 

[SteakNEggs]

I got this book for my wife for Christmas and I highly recommend it to anyone not indoctrinated into the trumpism cult.



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Hm

 

[fishonjazz]

Hm

Hmm what? You trying to point out that i think there are people who arent part of the cult? You think i should lump everyone into a cult or something? Nah, im not gonna lump everyone into the cult for you. Sorry.


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[Red]

Hm

What a shame that so many of his followers have been lied to. But then the leader of a cult of personality is more concerned with manipulation and control. If the truth serves that purpose, well fine, but if a Big Lie is more useful, and it was for Trump, run with it. Recall, back in 2016, he prepped for a loss by saying he could only lose if Hillary and the Democrats cheated. All because, apparently, his narcissism will not permit the word “loser” to ever be associated with his name. And even when he won, the 3 million popular votes more, that Hillary won, were the result of illegals voting in Ca. Same playbook in 2020, only with active help from both political allies and a mob of followers when he actually did lose in a fair and free election. It certainly is fair to at least speak in terms of cult-like.

You really need to counter what you object to with actual arguments of your own. This trend, over several threads, to be angry because people have the opinion that angers you so much is pointless. I think everyone is having trouble understanding what is actually troubling you about our opinions. It’s like you want to forbid those posters from believing what they believe, from arguing what they have argued.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4oXZXT3D0UE

 

[SteakNEggs]

What a shame that so many of his followers have been lied to. But then the leader of a cult of personality is more concerned with manipulation and control. If the truth serves that purpose, well fine, but if a Big Lie is more useful, and it was for Trump, run with it. Recall, back in 2016, he prepped for a loss by saying he could only lose if Hillary and the Democrats cheated. All because, apparently, his narcissism will not permit the word “loser” to ever be associated with his name. And even when he won, the 3 million popular votes more, that Hillary won, were the result of illegals voting in Ca. Same playbook in 2020, only with active help from both political allies and a mob of followers when he actually did lose in a fair and free election. It certainly is fair to at least speak in terms of cult-like.

You really need to counter what you object to with actual arguments of your own. This trend, over several threads, to be angry because people have the opinion that angers you so much is pointless. I think everyone is having trouble understanding what is actually troubling you about our opinions. It’s like you want to forbid those posters from believing what they believe, from arguing what they have argued.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4oXZXT3D0UE

Meh, I'm done with politics here for the time being but I'll point out your parties own stupid lies like pee tapes, Steele Dossier which was Russian propaganda paid for by Democrats and the Russia hoax. You guys were pushing lies way before this. You Democrats have little to no room to point fingers. Again Democrats literally pushed the Steele Dossier that was nothing more that Russian propaganda bought straight from Russian entities by Steele and sold to DNC and Hillary. This is 100% proven fact.

You sit and say, "Russia did meddle though!!!" and your right but that was under Obama who literally allowed it to happen to get his Iran deal. We were fully aware what Russia was doing in 2014 before Trump was even a thought. The meddling was under Obama watch and he was warned well before the election.

 

[Red]

Meh, I'm done with politics here for the time being but I'll point out your parties own stupid lies like pee tapes, Steele Dossier which was Russian propaganda paid for by Democrats and the Russia hoax. You guys were pushing lies way before this. You Democrats have little to no room to point fingers. Again Democrats literally pushed the Steele Dossier that was nothing more that Russian propaganda bought straight from Russian entities by Steele and sold to DNC and Hillary. This is 100% proven fact

The Russian story was no hoax. Trump actively encouraged Russian interference on his behalf. Mueller found a good deal of evidence for obstruction of Justice by Trump. Here’s another proven fact for you: the Democrats did not attempt to steal the 2020 election. The Democrats did not create the Big Lie. Do you have even the slightest idea how damaging it is to our body politic when a significant % of the electorate have bought into a lie that tells them elections can NEVER be trusted again? Do you have any idea at all? The Democrats did not send a mob to storm the people’s house, the Democrats did not try to prevent the peaceful transfer of power in our government, following what most state secretary of states said was the best run election they had experienced.

You seem to lack a sense of proportion where recent events, in recent years, involving our nation’s political life, is concerned. Proportion, sir. Your stated misgiving about Democrats pale so much in comparison to a lie designed to severely damage our body politic. From which, at least to some degree, we may never recover. Nobody in our history has so damaged the institution of the presidency and so undermined trust in a central institution of our republic, free and fair elections that citizens trust, than Donald Trump. The worst president ever, the most dangerous president ever, a president who, in front of the world’s cameras, criticized his own country, and on foreign soil, sided with Putin, one of the greatest butchers of this era. That may very well be the single most shameful and utterly disgraceful, rejection of his own nation by an American president ever. And I guess it just goes right over your head…..

 

[SteakNEggs]

The Russian story was no hoax. Trump actively encouraged Russian interference on his behalf. Mueller found a good deal of evidence for obstruction of Justice by Trump. Here’s another proven fact for you: the Democrats did not attempt to steal the 2020 election. The Democrats did not create the Big Lie. Do you have even the slightest idea how damaging it is to our body politic when a significant % of the electorate have bought into a lie that tells them elections can NEVER be trusted again? Do you have any idea at all? The Democrats did not send a mob to storm the people’s house, the Democrats did not try to prevent the peaceful transfer of power in our government, following what most state secretary of states said was the best run election they had experienced.

You seem to lack a sense of proportion where recent events, in recent years, involving our nation’s political life, is concerned. Proportion, sir. Your stated misgiving about Democrats pale so much in comparison to a lie designed to severely damage our body politic. From which, at least to some degree, we may never recover. Nobody in our history has so damaged the institution of the presidency and so undermined trust in a central institution of our republic, free and fair elections that citizens trust, than Donald Trump. The worst president ever, the most dangerous president ever, a president who, in front of the world’s cameras, criticized his own country, and on foreign soil, sided with Putin, one of the greatest butchers of this era. That may very well be the single most shameful and utterly disgraceful, rejection of his own nation by an American president ever. And I guess it just goes right over your head…..

Disagree... You are just protecting your own. You are bias just as I am. Democrats created the Big Lie before Trumps big lie. Your big lie caused just as much hate and discontent. If there really was a single thing there Democrats would have Trump in jail. You're a hypocrite that is unwilling to look past your own parties lies. Russia was a hoax but hey proof is in those pee tapes...

It is 100% fact Hillary paid Christopher Steele, for dirt on Trump. That is collusion. It is 100% fact that Christopher Steele got that information from Russian entities. Bury your head in the sand all you want, but you perpetrated the big lie far before Trump.