Election Count Issues


The Thriller

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One cool thing is that they did a full recount in arizona (one of the states where dominion is used) and found no discrepancies.
Of course I'm sure that those who did the recount were part of the deep state.

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You beat me to it. I was going to say those who did the recount were anti-Trump deep staters. Rudy should do the recount next time. He's the only one competent enough to do them.
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candrew

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Not true. All of these claims ought to be investigated.

Oh **** that noise. You know why? Once you go down the rabbit hole with these ****ing conspiracy theorists, it will NEVER end. For every debunked claim it will just morph into another anecdotal story in another state, another city, another county.

Trump lost convincingly (by his own standards) and the last time I checked his attorneys are 1-26 in the courts.

It's time to put on your big boy pants and go on with your lives.
 

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It's quite stunning that, so far, the media doesn't seem to care at all about the obvious implications of Hunter's emails, none of which the Biden's or anyone else have denied the authenticity of.

I care. Copy in the exact emails that concern you so, and show how Joe Biden did something wrong.

It's also amazing that the media doesn't care about obvious voter fraud.

I care. Present some evidence so good lawyers are willing to go to court with it.

Dead people should not be voting.

I agree. So far, I have seen one vote in Georgia (out of 4 claimed, two of whom were alive and one a case of mistaken identity) and two in Staten Island (2 of the three were Republicans, the third unidentified). One might almost think that, having been told by Trump multiple times that cheating was easy, the Republicans cheated at mail-in voting at a higher rate. However, that's too small a sample size to be sure.

Vote totals for a precinct should not exceed registration totals for the same precinct, etc.

Unless you see additional voters who moved into the precinct after registration, and cast provisional ballots, as happened in Miami.

These things are obvious problems, but apparently the media does not care.

I care. I just need evidence.
 

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This is so completely not what she said. She claimed that Chavez had voting software/hardware designed to insure that election results would go the way he wanted them to, and that some states in the US are now using that system. Hard to believe... yes. Disturbing if true... absolutely.
If this is true then why didn't the democrats make more dems win in the Senate and house? Why not get rid of Lindsay graham and Moscow Mitch while they are out there frauding the poor innocent donald Trump out of the presidency?

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Not true. All of these claims ought to be investigated. If you think evidence was uncovered that Trump colluded with Russia I believe you are mistaken. If there are claims of voter fraud in states Biden won those should be investigated too. There is no doubt that people on different ends of the political spectrum see this stuff differently, but the rules are clear and wrongdoing ought to be investigated. It's quite stunning that, so far, the media doesn't seem to care at all about the obvious implications of Hunter's emails, none of which the Biden's or anyone else have denied the authenticity of. It's also amazing that the media doesn't care about obvious voter fraud. Dead people should not be voting. Vote totals for a precinct should not exceed registration totals for the same precinct, etc. These things are obvious problems, but apparently the media does not care.
Look, im no fan of biden and have no problem with investigations into him or hunter. I also am no fan of hillary and had no problem with investigations into her. Call me when there are indictments, convictions and confessions and I will be there with you and I will bring my pitchfork.

The problem with this voter fraud crap is that it isn't happening in a vacuum with no collateral damage. Our country is being torn apart from the inside by this (trump has been doing everything he can to divide us all along. This is no different). Our democracy is being attacked. Our enemies are watching and trying to see how to best take advantage of the situation. Biden isn't being given the info that he should be receiving right now which will hurt our country when he does take over. Trump is focusing so much on winning this election that he is not focusing on other issues such as the pandemic and the economy.

So the trump administration is accusing the democrats of fraud. They have lost in court over and over again. Meanwhile trump university was convicted in court of fraud and racketeering. He has used charities fraudulently. People under his employ commited fraud by using money that was supposed to go to building the wall to instead pad their pockets.
People in his employ and in his campaign in 2016 were indicted, convicted and some even confessed due to their part in russia interferring in our election on trumps behalf. See the differences? You have a few accusations against hillary and hunter biden. Trump has some accusations of voter fraud. Meanwhile trump and those around him literally have a bunch of convictions in the court of law. Trump is a fraud.

Trump says the democrats cheated. Meanwhile trump has literally cheated on 3 different wives (all while pregnant mind you), cheats on his taxes, and has numerous ongoing legal cases against him. Hell trump even cheats against his kids when racing down a ski hill by tripping them. Trump is a cheater.

Trump calls biden senile and incompetent and slow. Meanwhile trump has even more gaffes than Biden does (without the excuse of a speech impediment), trumps team held a press conference at the 4 seasons landscaping company instead of the hotel (lol). His lawyer is on tv quoting my cousin vinny movie to explain his legal arguments while hair dye runs down his face. His campaign mixed up counties in michigan and minnesota in its election lawsuit: Russel James Ramsland Jr, the cyber-security expert and author of the affidavit lists 19 michigan electoral precincts where the presidential votes cast compared to the estimated voters exceeded 100%. That would indeed be bad if there were more votes cast than estimated voters in those 19 precincts. Except none of those precincts are in michigan to begin with. They are in minnesota. Trump is incompetent. (despite his cognitive test lol)

Trump criticized players for kneeling during the anthem. Trump is literally on video during the national anthem at the superbowl acting a fool during the anthem. He waves his hands around like he is leading an orchestra and does gun fingers at party goers. While his wife stands with hand over heart reverently. Trump disrespects the anthem. And if reports are true calls the troops losers. (definitely was insulting towards john mccain in regards to his service) Trump disrespects our troops

Trump always talks about the news being fake. Trump has fake hair and a fake tan. Trump is fake.

He sleeps with a porn star and pays her off to keep quiet. He gets trolled by Tik Tok. His lawyer gets embarrassed in a major motion picture (borat movie). He jokes about being president for longer than 2 terms. He says he would welcome help from other countries in an election. trump is a traitor and an embarrassment.

And now his new game plan (since he is getting destroyed in court) is to use electors to steal the election away from Biden and go against the will of the voters. You cool with that too like you are cool with everything else this ****ing clown does?

I mean I came up with all of this off the top of my head. Imagine the list to be made using google. This is your cherished leader. He is a con man and he has conned the **** out of you. Wake up
 
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fishonjazz

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If things were reversed and trump won the election and the Biden campaign was pushing the voter fraud idea I would be praying that no voter fraud would be found and that Trump would remain the president. Because I love my country and way of life more than I hate Trump. And finding voter fraud and overturning the election would destroy our country.
Yet I think there are many Trumpers that would love to see our country and way of life burn if it means that their hero trump gets to be president again.
Trump certainly doesn't care what the fallout from all of this is. He only cares about winning and power.



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babe

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Great post showing how bad Trump sucks.

Why would anyone want a president in office who everyone is out to get and who everyone is against? What a dumb thing to want.
I prefer a president that everyone loves and respects and believes in.


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A difference well documented in point of view.

I think Trump got a landslide of the real vote cast by citizens. Trump has split the Republican party losing oh 20% of the RINOs/CFR globalists, but a lot of the Dem base has switched to Trump. People who want jobs, want to enjoy life doing stuff they're good at and get paid well for doing, people who don't think they need all the regulations, people who love America for more traditional sorts of reasons. Not too willing to buy the progress load.
 

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If things were reversed and trump won the election and the Biden campaign was pushing the voter fraud idea I would be praying that no voter fraud would be found and that Trump would remain the president. Because I love my country and way of life more than I hate Trump. And finding voter fraud and overturning the election would destroy our country.
Yet I think there are many Trumpers that would love to see our country and way of life burn if it means that their hero trump gets to be president again.
Trump certainly doesn't care what the fallout from all of this is. He only cares about winning and power.



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I don't agree, really.

If there is voter fraud I want it found. Damage or no damage.

But if Trump won and Biden and the DNC were pushing crazy baseless voter fraud claims based on exactly what I've heard form the Trump campaign so far, I would want Biden to STFU and go away.
 

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A difference well documented in point of view.

I think Trump got a landslide of the real vote cast by citizens. Trump has split the Republican party losing oh 20% of the RINOs/CFR globalists, but a lot of the Dem base has switched to Trump. People who want jobs, want to enjoy life doing stuff they're good at and get paid well for doing, people who don't think they need all the regulations, people who love America for more traditional sorts of reasons. Not too willing to buy the progress load.
This is so far up in the ****ing night. (and trust me, I know about being up in the night)

Reality isn't like a choose your own adventure book. There's actually reality, you should try living in it.
 

fishonjazz

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A difference well documented in point of view.

I think Trump got a landslide of the real vote cast by citizens. Trump has split the Republican party losing oh 20% of the RINOs/CFR globalists, but a lot of the Dem base has switched to Trump. People who want jobs, want to enjoy life doing stuff they're good at and get paid well for doing, people who don't think they need all the regulations, people who love America for more traditional sorts of reasons. Not too willing to buy the progress load.

You don't think people had jobs, enjoyed life doing stuff they are good at and got paid well for doing it before trump? You don't think people have these things without trump?

You think trump is some sort of godly savior who is the only one that can grant Americans what they want?

Damn, you crazy.

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Joe Bagadonuts

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Oh **** that noise. You know why? Once you go down the rabbit hole with these ****ing conspiracy theorists, it will NEVER end. For every debunked claim it will just morph into another anecdotal story in another state, another city, another county.

Trump lost convincingly (by his own standards) and the last time I checked his attorneys are 1-26 in the courts.

It's time to put on your big boy pants and go on with your lives.
Where are you getting this 1-26 stat you keep sharing? Why would anyone be okay with precincts where there are more votes than registered voters? It seems like issues like this need to be resolved regardless of the impact it has on the election outcome. The fact that some people are so angered at such obvious problems makes me suspicious of their true goals.
 

Joe Bagadonuts

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If this is true then why didn't the democrats make more dems win in the Senate and house? Why not get rid of Lindsay graham and Moscow Mitch while they are out there frauding the poor innocent donald Trump out of the presidency?

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So you are saying your proof that this vote is not fraudulent is that you aren't aware of a whole bunch more fraud? That's some interesting logic.
 

Joe Bagadonuts

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Look, im no fan of biden and have no problem with investigations into him or hunter. I also am no fan of hillary and had no problem with investigations into her. Call me when there are indictments, convictions and confessions and I will be there with you and I will bring my pitchfork.

The problem with this voter fraud crap is that it isn't happening in a vacuum with no collateral damage. Our country is being torn apart from the inside by this (trump has been doing everything he can to divide us all along. This is no different). Our democracy is being attacked. Our enemies are watching and trying to see how to best take advantage of the situation. Biden isn't being given the info that he should be receiving right now which will hurt our country when he does take over. Trump is focusing so much on winning this election that he is not focusing on other issues such as the pandemic and the economy.

So the trump administration is accusing the democrats of fraud. They have lost in court over and over again. Meanwhile trump university was convicted in court of fraud and racketeering. He has used charities fraudulently. People under his employ commited fraud by using money that was supposed to go to building the wall to instead pad their pockets.
People in his employ and in his campaign in 2016 were indicted, convicted and some even confessed due to their part in russia interferring in our election on trumps behalf. See the differences? You have a few accusations against hillary and hunter biden. Trump has some accusations of voter fraud. Meanwhile trump and those around him literally have a bunch of convictions in the court of law. Trump is a fraud.

Trump says the democrats cheated. Meanwhile trump has literally cheated on 3 different wives (all while pregnant mind you), cheats on his taxes, and has numerous ongoing legal cases against him. Hell trump even cheats against his kids when racing down a ski hill by tripping them. Trump is a cheater.

Trump calls biden senile and incompetent and slow. Meanwhile trump has even more gaffes than Biden does (without the excuse of a speech impediment), trumps team held a press conference at the 4 seasons landscaping company instead of the hotel (lol). His lawyer is on tv quoting my cousin vinny movie to explain his legal arguments while hair dye runs down his face. His campaign mixed up counties in michigan and minnesota in its election lawsuit: Russel James Ramsland Jr, the cyber-security expert and author of the affidavit lists 19 michigan electoral precincts where the presidential votes cast compared to the estimated voters exceeded 100%. That would indeed be bad if there were more votes cast than estimated voters in those 19 precincts. Except none of those precincts are in michigan to begin with. They are in minnesota. Trump is incompetent. (despite his cognitive test lol)

Trump criticized players for kneeling during the anthem. Trump is literally on video during the national anthem at the superbowl acting a fool during the anthem. He waves his hands around like he is leading an orchestra and does gun fingers at party goers. While his wife stands with hand over heart reverently. Trump disrespects the anthem. And if reports are true calls the troops losers. (definitely was insulting towards john mccain in regards to his service) Trump disrespects our troops

Trump always talks about the news being fake. Trump has fake hair and a fake tan. Trump is fake.

He sleeps with a porn star and pays her off to keep quiet. He gets trolled by Tik Tok. His lawyer gets embarrassed in a major motion picture (borat movie). He jokes about being president for longer than 2 terms. He says he would welcome help from other countries in an election. trump is a traitor and an embarrassment.

And now his new game plan (since he is getting destroyed in court) is to use electors to steal the election away from Biden and go against the will of the voters. You cool with that too like you are cool with everything else this ****ing clown does?

I mean I came up with all of this off the top of my head. Imagine the list to be made using google. This is your cherished leader. He is a con man and he has conned the **** out of you. Wake up
There are several comments in this post that I know are not true. There are several that don't sound like they are true. There are some that are irrelevant to the conversation. In fairness, though, there are a lot that are true. The fact is I agree with you that Trump is not an example of our best and brightest. Unfortunately we have set up a system that is super effective at driving our best and brightest far away from pursuing the presidency. So we are left with choices that large numbers of us are dissatisfied with. But shouldn't we at least be allowed a free press that tells us the truth? Their bias is so obvious. There lies are so blatant. No wonder such a large segment of the population hates them so much. No wonder that huge segments of the population do not trust what they say or their motivation for saying it.
 

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Specifics would be cool. fish's post is pretty ****ing true. I don't need CNN to confirm that. To say a lot of it is not true (without mentioning one specific thing) is very telling. To use that vague statement to go on a rant about MSM is even more telling.

A once reasonable person and now this. Honestly it's ****ing sad what Trump has done to people.
 

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There are several comments in this post that I know are not true. There are several that don't sound like they are true. There are some that are irrelevant to the conversation. In fairness, though, there are a lot that are true. The fact is I agree with you that Trump is not an example of our best and brightest. Unfortunately we have set up a system that is super effective at driving our best and brightest far away from pursuing the presidency. So we are left with choices that large numbers of us are dissatisfied with. But shouldn't we at least be allowed a free press that tells us the truth? Their bias is so obvious. There lies are so blatant. No wonder such a large segment of the population hates them so much. No wonder that huge segments of the population do not trust what they say or their motivation for saying it.
That's really all I want to hear from everyone. That Trump sucks.
I don't hate on people who hold their nose and vote for trump cause they think he is lesser than 2 evils. I get that. And in 2016 I get it too and understand that he was something different at that time (not a career politician).
The thing I can't understand is people that think he is a wonderful man and the greatest president ever and compare him to religious heroes. That I simply cannot wrap my head around.

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I mean i just read an article with quotes like this:
In Sundown, Texas, Mayor Jonathan Strickland said there’s "no way in hell" Biden won fairly. The only way he’ll believe it, he said, is if Trump himself says so.

“Trump is the only one we’ve been able to trust for the last four years,” said Strickland, an oilfield production engineer. “As far as the civil war goes, I don’t think it’s off the table.”

This dude thinks Trump is the ONLY person he can trust. Donald Trump. WTF?

Asked whether Trump might be duping his followers, he said it’s hard to fathom.

“If I’m being manipulated by Trump ... then he is the greatest con man that ever lived in America,” Caleb Fryar said. “I think he’s the greatest patriot that ever lived.”

Greatest patriot that eve lived! WTF?

Rory Wells, 51, a New Jersey lawyer who attended a pro-Trump “stop the steal” election protest in Trenton last week, said he now watches Newsmax because Fox isn’t sufficiently conservative.

“I like that I get to hear from Rudy Giuliani and others who are not immediately discounted as being crazy,” he said of Trump’s lead election lawyer.
Rudy NOT crazy? WTF?

Fox news is not conservative enough lol.
 

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