I've posted some stuff in this forum before, and it's always gonna be controversial, but here is an attempt to get actual facts on the table, if available.
There are many ways to do voter fraud, for interested partisans who believe their cause somehow warrants the effort to do it. Well, "cause" might be a superfluity in the case of many perpetrators of the crime, because self-interest, self-dealing almost always plays some role.
The issue is further wonked and wanked by ideological crusaders, usually persuasive liars who don't care about anyone or anything, likely sociopaths of the highest rank, who have little or no real conscience.
And often the perpetrators are sophisticate political operatives with a support network that can depended upon within local or state or federal political establishments.... judges on the team, law enforcement officials, etc.
Like an FBI or CIA or DOJ on the federal level, with corrupt FISA judges or FEC officials, who are perfectly willing and indeed enthusiastic to be of help in the removal of an elected president, or in substantially altering election results or campaign parameters.... anything that can possibly be done to deny the "stupid" American citizens the influence feared by professional insiders whose jobs and networks are just fine thank you.
So here's a list of crimes they can resort to....
(1) ballot harvesting. political operatives somehow given a stack of vote by mail packets or actual ballots, with a list of voters and their addresses, who haven't voted recently. So they drive out to visit the folks, ballots in hand, and help them fill out the ballots......
Or if nobody is home, just fill out the ballot for them. Nice. Wonderful. Helpful public servants.
I'll add the list later, if interest warrants the effort.
So Judicial Watch has won a lawsuit in California, where the j udges approved a settlement with county officials to take steps to remove a burden of registrated voters who no longer live in the jurisdiction
Now there will be representives mailing out requests for verification of residence, maybe going out to check on the registrants.
But the larger issues, for many, is the idea or ideal of open borders, pure unrestricted voter opportunities without regard to quaint notions like citizenship. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and many of you, and many other progressives, see this as the good we should seek....
This notion actually disenfranchises long-time residents in an area, actual citizens with vested interests, the actual taxpayers who support all the government does.
So if you are that kind of progressive, go make another thread. This thread is a discussion of how we can enforce actual laws on the books and protect the rights of citizens. While "taxpayers" and "residents" are terms that would include non-citizens, this thread is only about actual laws and actual citizens who are defrauded by political activists who cheat on the system we have.
There are many ways to do voter fraud, for interested partisans who believe their cause somehow warrants the effort to do it. Well, "cause" might be a superfluity in the case of many perpetrators of the crime, because self-interest, self-dealing almost always plays some role.
The issue is further wonked and wanked by ideological crusaders, usually persuasive liars who don't care about anyone or anything, likely sociopaths of the highest rank, who have little or no real conscience.
And often the perpetrators are sophisticate political operatives with a support network that can depended upon within local or state or federal political establishments.... judges on the team, law enforcement officials, etc.
Like an FBI or CIA or DOJ on the federal level, with corrupt FISA judges or FEC officials, who are perfectly willing and indeed enthusiastic to be of help in the removal of an elected president, or in substantially altering election results or campaign parameters.... anything that can possibly be done to deny the "stupid" American citizens the influence feared by professional insiders whose jobs and networks are just fine thank you.
So here's a list of crimes they can resort to....
(1) ballot harvesting. political operatives somehow given a stack of vote by mail packets or actual ballots, with a list of voters and their addresses, who haven't voted recently. So they drive out to visit the folks, ballots in hand, and help them fill out the ballots......
Or if nobody is home, just fill out the ballot for them. Nice. Wonderful. Helpful public servants.
I'll add the list later, if interest warrants the effort.
So Judicial Watch has won a lawsuit in California, where the j udges approved a settlement with county officials to take steps to remove a burden of registrated voters who no longer live in the jurisdiction
Now there will be representives mailing out requests for verification of residence, maybe going out to check on the registrants.
But the larger issues, for many, is the idea or ideal of open borders, pure unrestricted voter opportunities without regard to quaint notions like citizenship. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and many of you, and many other progressives, see this as the good we should seek....
This notion actually disenfranchises long-time residents in an area, actual citizens with vested interests, the actual taxpayers who support all the government does.
So if you are that kind of progressive, go make another thread. This thread is a discussion of how we can enforce actual laws on the books and protect the rights of citizens. While "taxpayers" and "residents" are terms that would include non-citizens, this thread is only about actual laws and actual citizens who are defrauded by political activists who cheat on the system we have.