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gandalfe said:
Way to move the goalposts. You LITERALLY said "single word."

Oh, you didn't mean what you said?

Well, then, you're a lying sack of s*** and none of us should ever listen to you again. Maybe you should be sued for treason. Whatever the f*** that means.
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Lol you know what I meant. You're being petty. Get anger help and stop taking your problems out on me.
 
Harambe said:
Yeah, like for example that time I wouldn't look for the article you "read" and bitched about, and then wouldn't dissect your **** half-assed statements.

Or the more recent "I intend to divert" I clearly forgot about.

Never forget which one of us provides sources, and not spout off an opinion often not our own.
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So this is a better reply than the one above. I can see the reasons you have, which is an improvement.

I just posted a new thread, and you are welcome to post facts there on the subject of voter fraud. It's an old case already settled in CA, though the effort to clean up voter rolls will be on-going for sure.

But lets not do the partisan crap. Lets get some facts out to discuss.
 
gandalfe said:
Way to move the goalposts. You LITERALLY said "single word."

Oh, you didn't mean what you said?

Well, then, you're a lying sack of s*** and none of us should ever listen to you again. Maybe you should be sued for treason. Whatever the f*** that means.
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Also it's not what he said either. Im actually right. Was it similar yeah but it's not what Trump said. My point stands. There was no reason for Schifty to change the wording than to make something sound different. He had the transcript and still made up even the sentence you quoted.

Trump: “I would like you to do us a favor though.”
Schiff: "I have a favor I want from you"

Its not even what he said you angry child. One word was the same.
 
babe said:
In regard to Sonnie, I'm pretty sure you are confused somehow.

Sonnie quotes Obama's DOJ report finding local police working the district for revenue via abusive enforcement of local traffic and parking ordinances as a provocation. She is 100% on the problem of black men subjected to preferential prosecution and incarceration by police and judges. She is all about compassion for the black men in marginal life choice predicaments, and doing stuff to help them get out of the pattern.

She is black. She is ghetto. She's been there, she loves her ethnicity and her color and her community. She is also very very intelligent and a good journalist.
She is affiliated with Breitbart, but I rarely go on the Breitbart site. I just hear the radio, with rare but determined exceptions when I want to get the facts.
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I did notice that Sonny has rarely posted to Breitbart recently. Perhaps she's changed her views. As I suggested earlier, perhaps she was just seeking a little wingnut welfare until her circumstances no longer needed it.

However, if you really think I misunderstood, perhaps you can offer the non-racist understanding of her writing, "Black America’s favorite past time is back on full display in Ferguson, MO, as looting and rioting breaks out after the fatal shooting death of an unarmed 18-year old by Ferguson law enforcement."
 
JazzyFresh said:
I apologize about the way I went about that but my point is, Trump did not say a single word of that. This is not a joking matter where you put phony words in someone's mouth. You can sugar coat it all you want but again he made that entire line up. He lied, Trump did not say a single word of what Schifty said.

This is a serious matter to some, not some ****ing parody.
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Thank you for the apology. I have gone overboard myself in the past, I can sympathize with that.

I agree this is a serious matter. It's serious enough that quibbles about paraphrases serve only to distract from the point. Schiff is not testifying. How he characterizes what Trump said is not testimony. No one will vote on Trump's impeachment based on what Schiff said.

I see the same basic ideas in what Schiff actually said and what Trump's summary has him saying. I'm OK if you don't see that. I'm done arguing about Schiff's paraphrase for a while now.
 
One Brow said:
I did notice that Sonny has rarely posted to Breitbart recently. Perhaps she's changed her views. As I suggested earlier, perhaps she was just seeking a little wingnut welfare until her circumstances no longer needed it.

However, if you really think I misunderstood, perhaps you can offer the non-racist understanding of her writing, "Black America’s favorite past time is back on full display in Ferguson, MO, as looting and rioting breaks out after the fatal shooting death of an unarmed 18-year old by Ferguson law enforcement."
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Sonnie Johnson realized she was not a progressive when the DCW lady came and handcuffed her..... I imagine that is what it would have taken, she never said that part..... and dragged her away from her drug addict mother who at least loved her, and put her in a place where she got no love..... well, something like that..... she told about it once, I have no article to cite. So she was raised religious, nevertheless, and proud. She did not get a positive view of government from her experience. She has also not been very well received from a lot of conservatives. She is not your Candace Owens or whatnot.

She knew Andrew Breitbart and has tracked with the idea of personal liberties and self-sufficiency. I think you are perhaps partially correct about the shifting political preferences. However, she has positive connections with I believe David Webb, and some other XM125 hosts. She was on Breitbart Nes Tonight last night a lead guest.

She invites successful black men(and women) onto her show quite often, even if they are not Republican.... or especially if they are not. She does history lessons on black history, and loves to dissect the transition from the 1870s to 1900s era when the Republican Party turned out the blacks for the rich white eugenic progressives. I think she has a kind of street smarts. If the Republicans let her run their black outreach, there would be a lot of black Republicans. But I have actually heard her talking about a separate line of action.....so I know she is definitely frustrated in the R camp. She is more about creating or re-creating the culture of can-do in her community.

Anyone who figuratively or intellectually expects her or her people to sit at the back of the political bus is definitely on her bad side.

she does not exclude alt-right(*) dudes though, if they are articulate and positive about what blacks can do.

(*) definition(mine): anyone who criticizes Karl Marx as an old white intellectual dude in the pay of obscenely rich political schemers, in short, anyone who knows anything about Karl Marx, and who can discuss articulately how political narratives are used to corral the po folks into some damn miserable depencency on government with no liberty.

alternative definition, anyone who knows Obama and Hillary were ideological marxist fake wannabes kissing rich butts all over the world, taking a million or two from the nightstand after servicing their masters.

missing from these definitions is any kind of racist. Sonnie uses the historical black experience to warn the po damn whites what the "progressives" are about to do them, too.
 
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JazzyFresh said:
Also it's not what he said either. Im actually right. Was it similar yeah but it's not what Trump said. My point stands. There was no reason for Schifty to change the wording than to make something sound different. He had the transcript and still made up even the sentence you quoted.

Trump: “I would like you to do us a favor though.”
Schiff: "I have a favor I want from you"

Its not even what he said you angry child. One word was the same.
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One... SINGLE... word?

Which is what you said wasn't there. I mean, I'm sorry, but if you want to be a pedantic b****, I can pedant with the best of them.
 
gandalfe said:
One... SINGLE... word?

Which is what you said wasn't there. I mean, I'm sorry, but if you want to be a pedantic b****, I can pedant with the best of them.
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Oh, funny you expect me, a piss on, to be 100% literal but not the guy trying to impeach the President. Makes sense.

Angry little pedant.
 
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JazzyFresh said:
Oh, funny you expect me a piss on to be 100% literal but not the guy trying to impeach the President. ****ing hypocrite.
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I haven't said a goddamn word about what Schiff has said except to correct you. You made a declarative statement, I proved you wrong, and you refuse to acknowledge it.
 
gandalfe said:
I haven't said a goddamn word about what Schiff has said except to correct you. You made a declarative statement, I proved you wrong, and you refuse to acknowledge it.
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I wasn't being literal. I figured anyone with an IQ more than a sausage would get that. I mean if you want to be a petty angry child then you're technically right. You just changed the world getting angry over something so stupid.

What I was getting at is that Schiff completely pulled what Trump really said out of his ***. As I said I though anybody with a lick of common Sense would get that. Obviously I was wrong.
 
Jazzta said:
I don’t like Trump but this political persecution is getting out of hands, shifting towards an attack on our democracy more than anything, with vaguely founded accusations. You want to get Trump out of the office, just vote him out of the office. This whole impeachment ordeal is becoming a very bad look.
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Actions have consequences. Don't like impeachment? Don't commit high crimes and misdemeanors.

Permitting a president to get away with what Trump has done is a far far FAARRR worse long-term consequence for America's democracy and world affairs than the short-term pain of whatever perceived "political persecution" Trumpers feel right now.

Our elections should remain free and presidents should not use foreign aid to force foreign intervention for their personal political gain.

Im curious, would those who feel that we need to end the “political persecution” of Trump feel the same way if Obama or Clinton had done the same? Would you have been fine with Obama using ukraine to dig made up dirt on Romney or clinton using Ukraine to dig made up dirt on your girl Tulsi? I think we all know the answer to that, right? :)
 
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Jazzta said:
I said I didn’t feel like engaging in political discussion with you anymore, which is different from putting you on ignore. I just take a quick glance through your posts to verify the lengths that ignorance/insanity can reach.
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which is funny, because you’re the one who engaged in political talk in the game thread Wednesday night. Dude, make up your mind.

I’ll continue to post about the Trump cult as I see fit, regardless of how you feel. Sorry if that triggers you. Don’t like it, use the suggestion I’m now going to make for the fourth time, put me on ignore.
 
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The Thriller said:
Don't like impeachment? Don't commit high crimes and misdemeanors.

Permitting a president to get away with what Trump has done is a far far FAARRR worse long-term consequence for America's democracy and world affairs than the short-term pain of whatever perceived "political persecution" Trumpers feel right now.

Our elections should remain free and presidents should not use foreign aid to force foreign intervention for their personal political gain.
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This.
 
JazzyFresh said:
I wasn't being literal. I figured anyone with an IQ more than a sausage would get that. I mean if you want to be a petty angry child then you're technically right. You just changed the world getting angry over something so stupid.

What I was getting at is that Schiff completely pulled what Trump really said out of his ***. As I said I though anybody with a lick of common Sense would get that. Obviously I was wrong.
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So, it's ok for you to not be literal, but not him? And you say I'm hypocritical?
 
gandalfe said:
So, it's ok for you to not be literal, but not him? And you say I'm hypocritical?
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I'm not trying to impeach the highest power position in the United States. There's a tremendous difference here. This guy is a chairman of the House lying about what Trump said to get him impeached in front of million of people.

I mean bloody hell dude, you hold a guy like me to higher standards than an elected chairman. You don't even understand the difference between a house hearing and a JazzFanzz message. You're a hypocrite and lack the most basic common sense


I don't even care to discuss this anymore with you.
 
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Why would career diplomats throw away their careers and risk the personal safety of their families if this isn’t true? Want to talk about “political persecution?” Let’s focus on the actual victims of political persecution, Fiona Hill. Let’s talk about the Ukrainians who died because donald withheld the military aid.

Trump. Is. Not. The. Victim.

 
Trump is a national treasure and hero. I dont know how the F he gets through this onslaught of lies and attacks. Truly a brave man to stand up to such disgusting people.
 
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