Florida Airport Shooting - 5 Dead 13 hurt
- Thread starter The Midnight
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It saddens me when this country takes advantage of sad situations for there own benefit rather then showing support an comfort for the victims of these tragedies.
I hate when New Zealand takes political advantage in America. Damn Kiwis!!
Chicago used to have people embedded in the community who's purpose was to de-escalate conflicts between rival gang members or whoever else. It worked really well. They pulled the funding for it and violence has steadily increased since. There is one community that was able to self-fund the program and shooting deaths have continued to decline as they were before the funding was pulled for all the other communities.
This isn't just a "yes gun," "no gun" issue.
This isn't just a "yes gun," "no gun" issue.
MVP
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So you are saying if regular people would have access to guns more easily it would be better?
I am saying that one city, or even state, trying to dramatically restrict guns in their jurisdiction only takes the guns out of the hands of good guys. In American society that is a dead end that will not help anything. There are tons of guns stores just outside Chicago city limits that sell guns like crazy. Where do you think many of those guns end up?
So yes in this scenario I think it would make it better. The criminal element would learn that they are likely to get shot so occurrences would drop to some degree. Now I am not saying guns are the answer but in this exact scenario I think they would help.
The only ones obeying these gun laws are some law abiding citizens.
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Deleted member 848
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So that first part was from the Quran-- but that second part...er....wasn't.
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I'd spitball that the difference between governments has some role in it. In the average Islamic country the gov has some element of theological rule. A far stronger element than the average Christian dominated nation.
It does some more resistant than Christianity to change. I am sure some of that is what's presented and that is always biased to one degree or another. So how true, or not, it really it is clearly debatable.
Hotdog
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Here, let me answer that since Stoked is afraid to.
Because people are afraid to speak up. They don't want to die or have awful things happen to them. Islam is the religion of intimidation and violence.
After an extremely LONG day I can finally answer this.
As has been pointed out in this thread, Chicago having such strict gun laws has created a city of victims.
You cited something you claimed was a small study (admittedly, I didn't read it as I haven't had the time). Great. I'm not saying I will never think stricter gun laws are the answer. In fact, I've been on record as stating something needs to be done.
What I am saying is that the sad truth is people wanting to do bad things with guns will always find a way to do it. Taking away my right and ability to defend myself is not the answer, IMO.
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms..disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." - Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria, Criminologist in 1764.
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