Following potential 2015 draftees
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Carbon13
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I like some of the things Oubre brings as a prospect. His length would really help us defensively on the perimeter. Not a bad shooter either.
The other guy i like is Looney because he could be that corner 3 four man all the Kaminsky lovers seem to want, but hes a little more versatile. Plug him in at spot time at the three or four positions. Unfortunately no more Jack Cooley but im willing to sacrifice.
The other guy i like is Looney because he could be that corner 3 four man all the Kaminsky lovers seem to want, but hes a little more versatile. Plug him in at spot time at the three or four positions. Unfortunately no more Jack Cooley but im willing to sacrifice.
karl malone
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Curious to see where people currently stand with Hezonja. Obviously, it is difficult as fans with limited resources regarding the evaluation of intl players, but he seems to be exactly what we need (offensively) alongside our core 4 (3pt range, alpha mentality, ability to create his own shot). How our FO evaluates his character & defensive potential will likely be the determining factor, but considering how the consensus draft board seems to be shaping up, he appears to be the ideal target out of the realistic options within our projected range.
Towns, Okafor, Russell, & Mudiay appear to be locks for the top 5, with S.Johnson & WCS battling for that 5th spot. I expect all 6 to go before Mario, with the possibility of a few others going ahead of him as well with strong tourneys/combines. He should still be available at least in that 7/8 range, maybe even lower. Is it possible that he falls to us around #12? If not, what would people be willing to give up to move up the 3 or 4 spots necessary to grab him?
Personally, I would trade our pick along with another asset (such as Burke or the OKC pick) for him. Would this be enough to move from say #12 to #8? Or would you just stand pat & take bpa out of whoever is available (Winslow/Oubre/Booker/Porzingis/Looney/Turner/Kaminsky/etc)?
The draft is deep enough to get a solid prospect with the 12th pick, but Hezonja looks like the best offensive prospect in our range. Is it worth giving up the extra asset to get him or do you stay put & hope he falls into our lap (or instead target a defensive minded wing/backup big man) due to Rodney Hood's recent progression & long-term offensive promise? Does Hood make Hezonja redundant or would Hezonja instead make Hood expendable? Or do you keep both, with one starting & the other providing offense off the bench? With Hood playing well & Burks coming back, I could see the FO hanging onto the extra asset & going after a backup big instead, depending on the Tomic situation.
Also, one of the advantages to drafting Hezonja could be the possibility of allowing him to continue developing overseas for a year or two. As much as I think this team can compete for a playoff spot next year & acquire a player who can contribute to that in this year's draft, stashing Hezonja would allow us to see how Hood progresses with another year of development & what Burks looks like coming off his injury. Plenty of options, my guess is the FO allows how the draft unfolds to dictate the direction in which they go.
Towns, Okafor, Russell, & Mudiay appear to be locks for the top 5, with S.Johnson & WCS battling for that 5th spot. I expect all 6 to go before Mario, with the possibility of a few others going ahead of him as well with strong tourneys/combines. He should still be available at least in that 7/8 range, maybe even lower. Is it possible that he falls to us around #12? If not, what would people be willing to give up to move up the 3 or 4 spots necessary to grab him?
Personally, I would trade our pick along with another asset (such as Burke or the OKC pick) for him. Would this be enough to move from say #12 to #8? Or would you just stand pat & take bpa out of whoever is available (Winslow/Oubre/Booker/Porzingis/Looney/Turner/Kaminsky/etc)?
The draft is deep enough to get a solid prospect with the 12th pick, but Hezonja looks like the best offensive prospect in our range. Is it worth giving up the extra asset to get him or do you stay put & hope he falls into our lap (or instead target a defensive minded wing/backup big man) due to Rodney Hood's recent progression & long-term offensive promise? Does Hood make Hezonja redundant or would Hezonja instead make Hood expendable? Or do you keep both, with one starting & the other providing offense off the bench? With Hood playing well & Burks coming back, I could see the FO hanging onto the extra asset & going after a backup big instead, depending on the Tomic situation.
Also, one of the advantages to drafting Hezonja could be the possibility of allowing him to continue developing overseas for a year or two. As much as I think this team can compete for a playoff spot next year & acquire a player who can contribute to that in this year's draft, stashing Hezonja would allow us to see how Hood progresses with another year of development & what Burks looks like coming off his injury. Plenty of options, my guess is the FO allows how the draft unfolds to dictate the direction in which they go.
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Coach Ellis
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I'd honestly be happy with any of Russell, Johnson, Porzingis, Hezonja, WCS or Oubre (I've finally come around on him.)
First goal is to get an Alpha Scorer - without sacrificing defense (Russell, maybe Johnson, Porzingis and Hezonja) and the 2nd goal is to get another player with elite defensive potential (Johnson, WCS and Oubre).
Scout all of them, set your board and then aggressively try to move to get your target player. The Jazz have roster spots and assets to utilize.
First goal is to get an Alpha Scorer - without sacrificing defense (Russell, maybe Johnson, Porzingis and Hezonja) and the 2nd goal is to get another player with elite defensive potential (Johnson, WCS and Oubre).
Scout all of them, set your board and then aggressively try to move to get your target player. The Jazz have roster spots and assets to utilize.
Park Bites
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assuming Johnson is the target I would give up draft picks.
I am not a huge hood fan I worry about his durability and consistency but I like him backing up Johnson.
I would rather target hezonja first.
Yes, drafting a guy based on his tats is definitely the way to go. What if a guy has not tats. How do we judge his character then?
Ouch with Booker. Cant really judge a guy by a game against craphole U like Johnson with AZ as well.
You could replace Hamptons with nearly every SEC team and it would be true nearly ever game he has played this year. Dude might eventually be good, but he is going to suck *** next year in the NBA. Not at all NBA ready IMO.
seattlejazzfan
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Booker may need to stay in school, if for no other reason than to get more opportunity to show he can lead a college team before trying his hand at the NBA. Even Calipari said he looked like a scared little girl (not in those exact words)out there last night.
I'm starting to believe in Karl-Anthony Towns as the #1 pick in the draft. I this draft is loaded at the top. Anywhere in the Top 3 you're getting a stud.
Question to the group: would you include Dante in a package to move to #1-3 to draft D'Angelo? I am squarely on the fence - not sure there's a right/wrong answer. I love Dante and think he will be very, very good. But D'Angelo seems to have "it." Franchise player, superstar-type potential.
Question to the group: would you include Dante in a package to move to #1-3 to draft D'Angelo? I am squarely on the fence - not sure there's a right/wrong answer. I love Dante and think he will be very, very good. But D'Angelo seems to have "it." Franchise player, superstar-type potential.
I would package Exum in a deal to get Russell, tbh. He is the guy that we need, someone who can go out and get buckets every game, someone we can rely on to score. Exum isn't that guy, atleast for now.
I would agree. My conflicting thought is that we seem to be building a "system" that Exum looks to fit in well with. I think his offense will make big strides with improved strength and confidence, and his length/quickness makes him so good defensively. I think he could be a terror on D.
Let's just win the lotto so we don't have to choose between the two.