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Following potential 2015 draftees

Of the guys that I think will be there Oubre has the most potential. I'm not a big fan but at 11 or 12 beg gets can't be choosers.

I liked turner when his shot was falling but I'm not convinced he will be a good defender... He gets some blocked shots but overall I think he'll get killed in PnR and post up. I think he is a few years away and will need court time to develop.

I didn't like Looney when we were projected at 6 or 7 but at this point in the draft he'd make some sense... If he is aminu with a jump shot that's not a bad player.

I'd be happy with lyles although if the top 9 guys and kaminsky are gone I might consider trading back if we could pick up assets along the way... Draft seems pretty flat from 11-20.
 
Catchall said:
I guess the question is--how to rank the following:

Looney, Oubre, Turner, Portis, Lyles

It's not real clear to me yet.
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Add booker and poeltl to that group... It is an eye of the beholder group.
 
I think I'm full circle back to wanting us to keep our pick. I started off wanting us to keep the pick, then at some point I wanted us to trade it, but the more I think about it, the more I feel like the best option is to just keep it and get another lottery level talent. We will not be contenders next year with or without whatever we can trade the pick for. At the same time if we trade it for a PG/SG that would mean slowing down Dante's or Rodney's development, less minutes for them, less responsibility, less opportunities to improve in in-game situations. The only possible way I want us to trade it is if we are getting a long-term key piece and I doubt many such deals are available.
Quite honestly I think I'm good with a lot of the options that are going to be available for us. I wouldn't even mind if we combined a couple of picks in order to jump to getting some of the better shooting talents in the draft(Russell if he drops, Hezonja, etc.)... but I think that's probably the option that's least possible of all.
 
Hezonja if we trade up

Oubre if we stay put

Both have a lot of upside and i think would fit in well.

I dont want a role player with this pick. We can get a 7th-15th guy on the bench in free agency for reasonable price, that will contribute way more than any rookie will. I want a potential starter/star with our last lottery pick ever!
 
stitches said:
I think I'm full circle back to wanting us to keep our pick. I started off wanting us to keep the pick, then at some point I wanted us to trade it, but the more I think about it, the more I feel like the best option is to just keep it and get another lottery level talent. We will not be contenders next year with or without whatever we can trade the pick for. At the same time if we trade it for a PG/SG that would mean slowing down Dante's or Rodney's development, less minutes for them, less responsibility, less opportunities to improve in in-game situations. The only possible way I want us to trade it is if we are getting a long-term key piece and I doubt many such deals are available.
Quite honestly I think I'm good with a lot of the options that are going to be available for us. I wouldn't even mind if we combined a couple of picks in order to jump to getting some of the better shooting talents in the draft(Russell if he drops, Hezonja, etc.)... but I think that's probably the option that's least possible of all.
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Let the cake bake amirite
 
ONE LOVE said:
For a PF that's not too shabby. Plus he should improve on that in Quin's system with more spacing & encouragement.


Also look at his FT percentage - 84%. That tells me he has good mechanics & soft touch.
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Plus he just turned 19. He's going to get stronger, improve his shooting and develop more skills. I like his game and think he's far from reaching his actual potential. He also plays smart for a 19-year-old big.
 
stitches said:
I think I'm full circle back to wanting us to keep our pick. I started off wanting us to keep the pick, then at some point I wanted us to trade it, but the more I think about it, the more I feel like the best option is to just keep it and get another lottery level talent. We will not be contenders next year with or without whatever we can trade the pick for. At the same time if we trade it for a PG/SG that would mean slowing down Dante's or Rodney's development, less minutes for them, less responsibility, less opportunities to improve in in-game situations. The only possible way I want us to trade it is if we are getting a long-term key piece and I doubt many such deals are available.
Quite honestly I think I'm good with a lot of the options that are going to be available for us. I wouldn't even mind if we combined a couple of picks in order to jump to getting some of the better shooting talents in the draft(Russell if he drops, Hezonja, etc.)... but I think that's probably the option that's least possible of all.
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what if golden state came and offered Barnes for say the rights to draft Oubre? (the jazz might have to take david lees salary)
 
sahlensguy said:
Kris Dunn's lack of toughness around the basket, on both ends of the court in addition to not fighting through screens is a big turn off for me. That with his careless turnovers makes him a big gamble.

Even though Donte may never draw fouls around the rim, at least he battles on D and as this season wore on was much more careful with the ball.

The pace at which the Jazz play when Cotton is at the point is impressive but I'm not even sure it's necessary from our starting PG. Our D can be so dominating that a slower pace will demoralize the opponent quicker than a fast paced game. And went do we want Rudy running up and down so often.
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Very risky, but as the same time you don't dismiss specimens like Dunn. If college stats meant much, McDermott would be an all star instead of a 5 PER 12th man on the Bulls.

According to ESPN stat man Ryan Feldman, "Among guards in the last five NBA drafts [excluding 2014's], the top four in steal percentage in their final college season have started the majority of their NBA games." He also found that, "Among guards and wings in the last five NBA drafts, eight of the top 10 in assist percentage in their final college season have started in the NBA."
 
Crocodile Dante said:
what if golden state came and offered Barnes for say the rights to draft Oubre? (the jazz might have to take david lees salary)
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Umh... don't like the option with David Lee. He's got 15M contract... and Barnes - 3M. That means we have to send back 12M to them at the very least. We don't have the players to be able to make the trade. We have 8M in non-guaranteed contracts(that includes Millsap and Booker), Trey 2.5M, Jerret 0.9M ... we will need 1M more just to make salaries match. We don't have those... we simply don't. Who are we going to send them? Hood?

For me Millsap and Booker are marginal assets, Trey is a marginal asset(maybe somewhat more valuable than Booker and Millsap), lottery pick is very valuable, Hood is very valuable.

So in general we are sending to them 2 great assets, 3 marginal assets, in order to get a 1 year rental on Lee and possibly the best asset in that trade in Barnes?

Thanks but no thanks. I don't like it. Just the pick for Barnes is better deal to me.
 
Catchall said:
I guess the question is--how to rank the following:

Looney, Oubre, Turner, Portis, Lyles
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I think Oubre is the best prospect in this group with Portis as a sleeper. Pencil me in for Oubre/Portis.

Best-case scenario for Oubre is Paul George/Rudy Gay--but he'll probably fall short of this.

Best-case scenario for Portis is Rasheed Wallace.
 
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