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Howard said:
Dame had a lot more athleticism.
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yah, Lillard had almost 40 inch vertical, I doubt Harvey is anywhere near that. That's the fastest u-turn I've done on a prospect. I was so excited by looking at a couple of highlight vids and a statline... but the section with the defense on the cbs article is quite damning and brought me back to earth - if he doesn't improve considerably, he won't be able to get any playing time to show off his offensive game because of his defense being such a huge liability.
 
I'd still prefer we trade down to collect an extra asset or 2 if we are unable to move up, but if we do stay put at #12, I have a feeling we will be choosing between whoever remains out of Oubre, Kaminsky, & Turner, with Portis & Looney getting some consideration. As much as I don't like the idea of taking a long-term backup in the lottery, I would be okay with 1 of Kaminsky or Turner, especially now that Tomic is no longer an option. Kaminsky is a perfect fit offensively as our 3rd big due to his 3 pt range & low post offense, but I could see the FO preferring Turner because of his solid range, good defense & better long-term potential. Turner may never develop a consistent 3 pt shot like Kaminsky, but unlike Frank, he has the mixture of range/defense that the FO & QS would likely prefer out of our backup C. They probably won't have to choose between the 2 as 1 of them will likely be selected along with Oubre before our pick. My guess is we wind up with Turner, who could be the best combination of need & potential. If the FO didn't like T.Booker so much, I could see us going with Portis or Looney instead, but I have a feeling they'd like to retain Booker beyond next year. I'd still trade down before taking Turner if the right deal were to present itself, but if not, we could do worse than Turner. If he is ever able to develop any kind of fluidity & get over his physical awkwardness, he could turn out to be a steal at #12.
 
I'd still prefer we trade down to collect an extra asset or 2 if we are unable to move up, but if we do stay put at #12, I have a feeling we will be choosing between whoever remains out of Oubre, Kaminsky, & Turner, with Portis & Looney getting some consideration. As much as I don't like the idea of taking a long-term backup in the lottery, I would be okay with 1 of Kaminsky or Turner, especially now that Tomic is no longer an option. Kaminsky is a perfect fit offensively as our 3rd big due to his 3 pt range & low post offense, but I could see the FO preferring Turner because of his solid range, good defense & better long-term potential. Turner may never develop a consistent 3 pt shot like Kaminsky, but unlike Frank, he has the mixture of range/defense that the FO & QS would likely prefer out of our backup C. They probably won't have to choose between the 2 as 1 of them will likely be selected along with Oubre before our pick. My guess is we wind up with Turner, who could be the best combination of need & potential. If the FO didn't like T.Booker so much, I could see us going with Portis or Looney instead, but I have a feeling they'd like to retain Booker beyond next year. I'd still trade down before taking Turner if the right deal were to present itself, but if not, we could do worse than Turner. If he is ever able to develop any kind of fluidity & get over his physical awkwardness, he could turn out to be a steal at #12.
 
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stitches said:
New breakdown of Justin Anderson on DX:

https://www.draftexpress.com/articl...raft-Scouting-Report-and-Video-Breakdown-4932
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Its that write up that makes me want Anderson more. The fact that in the off season he changed his mechanics of his shot show his work ethic. If you watched him later in the season he started to drift back to his old habits. A better regime in the offseason I think his shooting will be much better. Is he going to be a star? NO but he will be a solid piece on a good team.
 
karl malone said:
I'd still prefer we trade down to collect an extra asset or 2 if we are unable to move up, but if we do stay put at #12, I have a feeling we will be choosing between whoever remains out of Oubre, Kaminsky, & Turner, with Portis & Looney getting some consideration. As much as I don't like the idea of taking a long-term backup in the lottery, I would be okay with 1 of Kaminsky or Turner, especially now that Tomic is no longer an option. Kaminsky is a perfect fit offensively as our 3rd big due to his 3 pt range & low post offense, but I could see the FO preferring Turner because of his solid range, good defense & better long-term potential. Turner may never develop a consistent 3 pt shot like Kaminsky, but unlike Frank, he has the mixture of range/defense that the FO & QS would likely prefer out of our backup C. They probably won't have to choose between the 2 as 1 of them will likely be selected along with Oubre before our pick. My guess is we wind up with Turner, who could be the best combination of need & potential. If the FO didn't like T.Booker so much, I could see us going with Portis or Looney instead, but I have a feeling they'd like to retain Booker beyond next year. I'd still trade down before taking Turner if the right deal were to present itself, but if not, we could do worse than Turner. If he is ever able to develop any kind of fluidity & get over his physical awkwardness, he could turn out to be a steal at #12.
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I'm hoping Turner and/or Looney go top 10, pushing someone else down. I'd still like to get Oubre, even if it means trading up to 10 with Miami to do it.
 
stitches said:
yah, Lillard had almost 40 inch vertical, I doubt Harvey is anywhere near that. That's the fastest u-turn I've done on a prospect. I was so excited by looking at a couple of highlight vids and a statline... but the section with the defense on the cbs article is quite damning and brought me back to earth - if he doesn't improve considerably, he won't be able to get any playing time to show off his offensive game because of his defense being such a huge liability.
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I mean, I'm not saying he isn't worth drafting in a 2nd round, but to say he would be a steal or is a 1st round talent (as Croc D. would suggest) is false.
 
Portis and Looney intrigue me, so does Oubre. Skeptical of anyone associated with Kentucky but Id like to know more about lyles.
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Can see the jazz trading the pick if tyus Jones is still on the board, but I saw a mock this morning (Sheridan hoops?) that had jazz taking tyus jones at 12 and trading Trey.
 
mellow said:
Portis and Looney intrigue me, so does Oubre. Skeptical of anyone associated with Kentucky but Id like to know more about lyles.
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Can see the jazz trading the pick if tyus Jones is still on the board, but I saw a mock this morning (Sheridan hoops?) that had jazz taking tyus jones at 12 and trading Trey.
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So we trade Trey Burke to draft another Trey Burke?

No thanks.
 
Sam Vecenie just posted his newest mock draft and he projects us taking Looney with the 12 pick(With Booker, Turner, Kaminsky still on the board) Cedi Osman with the 42 and Marc Garcia with the 54:

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/mock-draft/expert/sam-vecenie


Here's what he says as an explanation for his pick:

12. Utah Jazz: Kevon Looney, PF, UCLA: The Jazz are a decent candidate to trade this pick, in my opinion, for more immediate help. However, Looney could be an interesting option to pair with the rest of the Utah frontcourt. His length and defensive versatility could continue to help the Jazz build a terrifying defense. Also, his potential for shooting ability as well as offensive creation should be something that coach Quin Snyder appreciates. I don't think he's a potential star due to limited explosive athleticism, but he could be one heck of a two-way role player due to his skill and motor.
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Here's his explanations for the second round picks:

Cedi Osman, PG, Macedonia: Osman could develop in Europe for a couple of years as a playmaker that the Jazz could use down the road.
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Marc Garcia, SG, Spain: Garcia has a shot to become a useful player in time, but at only 19 he might not stay in the draft.
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