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Carbon13 said:
Its weird, ive always thought of Burks as more of a homerun pick than Kawhi. A lot people on this board were saying Burks was the next Wade. Who knows, he might be, but Id take kawhi at this point.

Im just a big fan of shooting and length. I think with Booker you get shooting. With Oubre you get elite length a la Leonard and Draymond Green.
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Oubre is nothing like Leonard or Green. What makes Green as good as he is are his smarts. He's a smart player, knows his limitations. Same with Leonard, he seems like a pretty basketball smart player. I don't know enough about Oubre to say that he's that kind of player.
 
stitches said:
6'8'' is not horrible... it's probably about average for a wing in the league. 6'6'' is kind of short though. Of course it doesn't predetermine his success, but it's much easier to be a good defender with several extra inches of length. Without it, he'd have to have great timing, anticipation and defensive instincts. I am not sure yet about those...

In O, I think his athleticism is more important for his in-paint game(and he seems to have above average athleticism) and his quick and high release(has both) are important for his jump shooting, so I am not really worried for his offensive game.
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I would guess 6'6 is about average for most SG's in the NBA. I think the average height is about 6'4 for SG's and most NBA players (especially wings) are around 2-3 inches longer in wingspan than height.

Length is something that helps you be a good defender, but it doesn't make or break your defensive abilities. Jimmy Butler is one of the better defenders in the league, at 2 or 3, and only has a 6'7 wingspan.

Alec Burks freaking blows on defense and he has a 6'10 wingspan.

*Most importantly* I don't see anything in Booker's athletic or physical measurements that hold him back from being whatever player he can be. It's not like we are dealing with a 6'1 SG.
 
Hantlers said:
Oubre is nothing like Leonard or Green. What makes Green as good as he is are his smarts. He's a smart player, knows his limitations. Same with Leonard, he seems like a pretty basketball smart player. I don't know enough about Oubre to say that he's that kind of player.
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Well how can you say hes nothing like Leonard or Green if you havent seen enough of him?!!
 
Cy said:
I would guess 6'6 is about average for most SG's in the NBA. I think the average height is about 6'4 for SG's and most NBA players (especially wings) are around 2-3 inches longer in wingspan than height.

Length is something that helps you be a good defender, but it doesn't make or break your defensive abilities. Jimmy Butler is one of the better defenders in the league, at 2 or 3, and only has a 6'7 wingspan.

Alec Burks freaking blows on defense and he has a 6'10 wingspan.

*Most importantly* I don't see anything in Booker's athletic or physical measurements that hold him back from being whatever player he can be. It's not like we are dealing with a 6'1 SG.
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Agree with the bigger point, but the number for the average wingspan is closer to 6'8. Here's the wingspans of the all drafted prospects(SG) in recent years:
https://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pr...&sort2=DESC&draft=100&pos=2&source=All&sort=5

The median is actually 6'7.5''. The list includes some prospects who are now SFs and some who are PGs, as a whole it evens out I think..
 
Hantlers said:
Oubre is nothing like Leonard or Green. What makes Green as good as he is are his smarts. He's a smart player, knows his limitations. Same with Leonard, he seems like a pretty basketball smart player. I don't know enough about Oubre to say that he's that kind of player.
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Then how can you say he is "nothing like" them? Oubre isn't an athletic freak, he has to rely on smarts as well. His numbers are very similar to Leonards across the board. Leonard was the better rebounder, Oubre a more efficient scorer.
 
stitches said:
Agree with the bigger point, but the number for the average wingspan is closer to 6'8. Here's the wingspans of the all drafted prospects(SG) in recent years:
https://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pr...&sort2=DESC&draft=100&pos=2&source=All&sort=5

The median is actually 6'7.5''. The list includes some prospects who are now SFs and some who are PGs, as a whole it evens out I think..
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Just looking at the numbers in there database listed under SG, there are some really big outliers in there, like T-Mac and Inglis.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Then how can you say he is "nothing like" them? Oubre isn't an athletic freak, he has to rely on smarts as well. His numbers are very similar to Leonards across the board. Leonard was the better rebounder, Oubre a more efficient scorer.
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They are nothing alike (besides having huge wingspans), at all, at least at teh college level.
 
ONE LOVE said:
So having an opinion on this board now gets this kind of insult/abuse?



I used to respect you.
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I'm not abusing you at all. In fact, I'm trying to help you. 6'6" is a good to great height for a SG. The JJ comparison is bad because he is undersized for a SG and now is a defensive liability for the Clippers.

I thought all these things were obvious.
 
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