Following Potential 2018 Draftees

[LoPo]

I would rather trade for a future 1st than take Brunson for #21.

If we are thinking guys like Brunson, Okogie, Grayson, would you guys trade #21 to Atlanta for #30, #34 and their 2019 2nd?

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[Ferguson_Mellochill]

If the Jazz take a 3-year college player who is more mature, they'll target KBD because he fits a need. Locke's generalizations about how players in different ranges of the draft pan out or don't pan out don't really apply to us. The Jazz scout and prepare the draft very thoroughly, and when they target Donovan Mitchell or Rudy Gobert, they know very well what the risks and the rewards are.

The guys with the most upside in our draft range are Mitchell Robinson, Anfernee Simons, Elie Okobo and maybe Melvin Frazier. If the Jazz really believe in their ability to develop and coach players, they should take a look at Hamidou Diallo in the 2nd round. His measurables are like Kobe's.

As for targeting Grayson Allen, my view is that there isn't much point to it. There are lots of guards floating around the league available in trades or free agency.

 

[Snafz]

Locke really braced us for Grayson Allen in his latest podcast. I want to murder him.

Talked about how in the 20's range teams should probably just go for safe 4 year type players.

I would be surprised if we drafted him. We don't typically go after those 4 year kids under DL. The Jazz have recently implied that they would be looking for a riskier, high ceiling type of guy which makes more sense to me.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If the Jazz take a 3-year college player who is more mature, they'll target KBD. Locke's generalizations about how players in different ranges of the draft pan out or don't pan out don't really apply to us. The Jazz scout and prepare the draft very thoroughly, and when they target Donovan Mitchell or Rudy Gobert, they know very well what the risks and the rewards are.

The guys with the most upside in our draft range are Mitchell Robinson, Anfernee Simons, Elie Okobo and maybe Melvin Frazier. If the Jazz really believe in their ability to develop and coach players, they should take a look at Hamidou Diallo in the 2nd round. His measurables are like Kobe's.

As for targeting Grayson Allen, my view is that there isn't much point to it. There are lots of guards floating around the league available in trades or free agency.

I'm fine if they like him, but trade back and pick up other assets on the way... I don't think he goes in the first round personally.

 

[infection]

Locke may be referencing Jalen Brunson... If we go Allen or Brunson I will be depressed. I get the "get a guy who will be in the league 10 years argument"... but you can get that guy in FA and generally don't pay a premium. Even if you take a Simons or Brown Jr. and they flash a little they increase their trade value. Like what would OG be worth in a trade (he did more than flash, but still)? Or like Bam?

Take Justin Jackson... who played a little and was bad to okayish... no one expects much more cuz he old.

I'd be sad.

I find the "will be in the league for 10 years" argument funny. Here's a list of guys who have played 10 or more years for us:

John Stockton - 19 years
Karl Malone - 17 years
Mark Eaton - 11 years
Darrell Griffith - 11 years
Thurl Bailey - Kind of 10 years
Greg Ostertag - 10 years
Andrei Kirilenko - 10 years

 

[stitches]

Come on! Lets do this! PG of the future!

 

[stitches]

Walt Perrin after the workout:

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Come on! Lets do this! PG of the future!

Okoboner Activated!

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If the Jazz take a 3-year college player who is more mature, they'll target KBD because he fits a need. Locke's generalizations about how players in different ranges of the draft pan out or don't pan out don't really apply to us. The Jazz scout and prepare the draft very thoroughly, and when they target Donovan Mitchell or Rudy Gobert, they know very well what the risks and the rewards are.

The guys with the most upside in our draft range are Mitchell Robinson, Anfernee Simons, Elie Okobo and maybe Melvin Frazier. If the Jazz really believe in their ability to develop and coach players, they should take a look at Hamidou Diallo in the 2nd round. His measurables are like Kobe's.

As for targeting Grayson Allen, my view is that there isn't much point to it. There are lots of guards floating around the league available in trades or free agency.

The only silver lining to Locke's thoughts are if it's hinting towards KBD.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

2 more weeks til the draft.

 

[zyzz]

The only silver lining to Locke's thoughts are if it's hinting towards KBD.

I just listened to his podcast from today. Did he specifically mention Grayson Allen as a likely target? If he did, I must have been spacing out during that part.

Also Pace Mannion made a cameo on the pod randomly. His son is Nico Mannion who will probably be talked about in the Potential 2020 Draftees thread lol.

If anyone is interested, Grayson Allen is doing an AMA on /r/nba. I don't think it is going to go well.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I just listened to his podcast from today. Did he specifically mention Grayson Allen as a likely target? If he did, I must have been spacing out during that part.

Also Pace Mannion made a cameo on the pod randomly. His son is Nico Mannion who will probably be talked about in the Potential 2020 Draftees thread lol.

If anyone is interested, Grayson Allen is doing an AMA on /r/nba. I don't think it is going to go well.

He just said 4 year players in the 20's have a better chance of panning out than the upside shots. Then he said guys like Grayson and Jalen as examples.