Following Potential 2020 draftees

[idiot]

I don't know how I would treat such information as another team's GM, but IMO you definitely need to keep it in mind. For example lets say OKC(drafting no. 25 via Denver) loves Woodard and it would take just their second round pick to move to 22 in front of the Jazz, I would probably do it based on this information. It sounds weird, but this is not like it's a single year lucky pick. This happens damn near every single year.

And if this is the year Locke's "signals" are wrong (which you'd probably never know, by the way) in the scenario you mention, how secure would you feel in your job?

As accurate as the Locke's picks seem to be, it's also the case that having Locke's ideas out there hasn't seemed to affect the availability of those players for the Jazz much at all.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Locke seriously needs to find out a better way to articulate he's appreciation of a good NBA build. Creep level through the roof!

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Its cringy.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

And if this is the year Locke's "signals" are wrong (which you'd probably never know, by the way) in the scenario you mention, how secure would you feel in your job?

As accurate as the Locke's picks seem to be, it's also the case that having Locke's ideas out there hasn't seemed to affect the availability of those players for the Jazz much at all.

I mean we took Tony Bradley in part because we though San Antonio was taking him based on some intel... DL still gots a job.

 

[stitches]

And if this is the year Locke's "signals" are wrong (which you'd probably never know, by the way) in the scenario you mention, how secure would you feel in your job?

Oh well, in that case you've lost a pick in the 50s for nothing(which you won't know for sure). I'm not saying make some insane trades and give up some significant draft compensation based on that type of information, but there is some threshold where IMO it's worth acting on that info.

As accurate as the Locke's picks seem to be, it's also the case that having Locke's ideas out there hasn't seemed to affect the availability of those players for the Jazz much at all.

True, for example in the Dante Exum year, Locke was actually pretty hyped about Aaron Gordon. IMO, this was the guy the Jazz were going to pick if he was available.

 

[Jose Mayonnaise]

If I'm the arena sound director and we draft Ramsey, I'm playing the Nacho Libre sound bit every time he checks in:

Ramses is #1
His Biceps are #1

Names aren't an exact match but sound close enough.

There is a whole stack of players I would take ahead of Woodard--Maledon, McDaniels, Bolmaro, Reed, Flynn, Ramsey...

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[Game6Conley]

If I'm the arena sound director and we draft Ramsey, I'm playing the Nacho Libre sound bit every time he checks in:

Ramses is #1
His Biceps are #1

Names aren't an exact match but sound close enough.

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this post gave me a craving for mexican street corn

 

[Game6Conley]

Well safe to say the Kings are gonna be at the very top of next years draft... their the whooping boys of the best division in basketball

 

[Game6Conley]

Word is Patrick Williams is gonna go even higher than previously expected.. As high as 4 to Chicago...

 

[Hekate]

Here's a strong take on my part - I don't see it with Deni Avdija. I like all of Killian Hayes, Pokusevski and Maladon better from the overseas prospects.

Not that I would take Poku or Maledon over Deni but I was surprised to see him mocked around 4. I thought he would go 9-14.

 

[prodigy]

What is Woodard's NBA comp and does he still have the braces. Lol.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

What is Woodard's NBA comp and does he still have the braces. Lol.

I see a more athletic Torrey Craig that is a better shooter. I'm worried his defense won't catch up to his physical stature though.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

What is Woodard's NBA comp and does he still have the braces. Lol.

He's post-injury Rudy Gay on the Spurs, imo. Defensive 4/5. Good athlete. Good measurables. Limited handle, passing and shooting.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I think there's a 1-in-4 chance that Poku slips to the Jazz at #23.
It would likely require that Achiuwa, Terry, Maxey, Anthony, Green and McDaniels all go ahead of him.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Total Sleeper Pick for the Jazz at #23: Zeke Nnaji

 

[Game6Conley]

What is Woodard's NBA comp and does he still have the braces. Lol.

Best case something like a Tobias Harris

 

[zyzz]

Tons of new mock drafts today. Mods can let me know if this is too much paywalled info. These are just snippets of whole articles which I think is fine.

ESPN Insider Mock
1 Minnesota Timberwolves
Anthony Edwards Georgia G Age: 19.2

2 Golden State Warriors
James Wiseman Memphis C Age: 19.6

3 Charlotte Hornets
LaMelo Ball Illawarra G Age: 19.2

4 Chicago Bulls
Deni Avdija Maccabi G/F Age: 19.8

5 Cleveland Cavaliers
Obi Toppin Dayton F Age: 22.6

6 Atlanta Hawks
Onyeka Okongwu USC F/C Age: 19.9

7 Detroit Pistons
Patrick Williams Florida State F Age: 19.2

8 New York Knicks
Tyrese Haliburton Iowa State G Age: 20.6

9 Washington Wizards
Isaac Okoro Auburn G/F Age: 19.7

10 Phoenix Suns
Kira Lewis Jr. Alabama G Age: 19.6

11 San Antonio Spurs
Devin Vassell Florida State G/F Age: 20.2

12 Sacramento Kings
Killian Hayes Ulm G Age: 19.2

13 New Orleans Pelicans
Saddiq Bey Villanova F Age: 21.5

14 Boston Celtics (via MEM)
Tyrese Maxey Kentucky G Age: 20.0

15 Orlando Magic
RJ Hampton New Zealand G Age: 19.7

16 Portland Trailblazers
Precious Achiuwa Memphis F/C Age: 21.1

17 Minnesota Timberwolves (via BKN)
Aaron Nesmith Vanderbilt G/F Age: 21.0

18 Dallas Mavericks
Aleksej Pokusevski Olympiacos F Age: 18.8

19 Brooklyn Nets (via PHI)
Josh Green Arizona G/F Age: 19.9

20 Miami Heat
Jalen Smith Maryland F Age: 20.6

21 Philadelphia 76ers (via OKC)
Cole Anthony North Carolina G Age: 20.4

22 Denver Nuggets (via HOU)
Malachi Flynn SDSU G Age: 22.5

23 Utah Jazz
Theo Maledon ASVEL G Age: 19.4

24 Milwaukee Bucks (via IND)
Desmond Bane TCU G Age: 22.3

25 Oklahoma City Thunder (via DEN)
Jaden McDaniels Washington F Age: 20.1

26 Boston Celtics
Leandro Bolmaro FC Barcelona G/F Age: 20.1

27 New York Knicks (via LAC)
Isaiah Stewart Washington C Age: 19.4

28 Oklahoma City Thunder (via LAL)
Tyrell Terry Stanford G Age: 20.1

29 Toronto Raptors
Zeke Nnaji Arizona C Age: 19.8

30 Boston Celtics (via MIL)
Xavier Tillman Sr. MSU PF Age: 21.8

 

[zyzz]

Sam Vecenie (The Athletic)
1 Minnesota Timberwolves
LaMelo Ball | 6-6 guard | 18 years old | Illawarra Hawks

2 Golden State Warriors
James Wiseman | 7-1 center | 19 years old, freshman | Memphis (sort of)

3 Charlotte Hornets
Anthony Edwards | 6-5 guard | 19 years old, freshman | Georgia

4 Chicago Bulls
Deni Avdija | 6-9 forward | 19 years old | Maccabi Tel-Aviv

5 Cleveland Cavaliers
Obi Toppin | 6-9 forward/center | 22 years old, sophomore | Dayton

6 Atlanta Hawks
Tyrese Haliburton | 6-5 guard | 20 years old, sophomore | Iowa State

7 Detroit Pistons
Patrick Williams | 6-8 forward/wing | 18 years old, freshman | Florida State

8 New York Knicks
Isaac Okoro | 6-6 wing | 19 years old, freshman | Auburn

9 Washington Wizards
Onyeka Okongwu | 6-9 center | 19 years old, freshman | USC

10 Phoenix Suns
Aaron Nesmith | 6-6 wing | 20 years old, sophomore | Vanderbilt

11 San Antonio Spurs
Jaden McDaniels | 6-10 forward | 19 years old, freshman | Washington

12 Sacramento Kings
Devin Vassell | 6-5 wing | 19 years old, sophomore | Florida State

13 New Orleans Pelicans
Killian Hayes | 6-5 guard | 18 years old, freshman | Ulm

14 Boston Celtics (via MEM)
R.J. Hampton | 6-5 guard | 19 years old | New Zealand Breakers

15 Orlando Magic
Kira Lewis Jr. | 6-3 guard | 19 years old, sophomore | Alabama

16 Portland Trailblazers
Aleksej Pokusevski | 7-0 center | 18 years old | Olympicacos B

17 Minnesota Timberwolves (via BKN)
Precious Achiuwa | 6-9 forward/center | 21 years old, freshman | Memphis

18 Dallas Mavericks
Tyrese Maxey | 6-3 guard | 19 years old, freshman | Kentucky

19 Brooklyn Nets (via PHI)
Saddiq Bey | 6-8 wing | 20 years old, sophomore | Villanova

20 Miami Heat
Cole Anthony | 6-3 guard | 20 years old, freshman | North Carolina

21 Philadelphia 76ers (via OKC)
Tyrell Terry | 6-1 guard | 19 years old, freshman | Stanford

22 Denver Nuggets (via HOU)
Zeke Nnaji | 6-10 forward/center | 19 years old, freshman | Arizona

23 Utah Jazz
Josh Green | 6-6 wing | 19 years old, freshman | Arizona

24 Milwaukee Bucks (via IND)
Theo Maledon | 6-4 guard | 19 years old | ASVEL

25 Oklahoma City Thunder (via DEN)
Desmond Bane | 6-5 guard | 22 years old, senior | TCU

26 Boston Celtics
Leandro Bolmaro | 6-8 forward | 19 years old, international | Barcelona B

27 New York Knicks (via LAC)
Isaiah Stewart | 6-9 center | 19 years old, freshman | Washington

28 Oklahoma City Thunder (via LAL)
Robert Woodard | 6-7 wing/forward | 20 years old, sophomore | Mississippi State

29 Toronto Raptors
Jalen Smith | 6-10 forward/center | 20 years old, sophomore | Maryland

30 Boston Celtics (via MIL)
Xavier Tillman | 6-9 center | 21 years old, junior | Michigan State

 

[zyzz]

Also seeing Killian Hayes slide on some of these mocks. Apparently teams are saying he's super slow looking in workouts. I think Boston specifically said it. Might be smoke, but his range is looking pretty wide on draft night.

 

[stitches]

What is Woodard's NBA comp and does he still have the braces. Lol.

He's like... bigger Zhaire Smith/KJ McDaniels ... that's the best I could do...

 

[zyzz]

From Tony's latest Athletic article. Nothing too crazy

The interesting thing for the Jazz is the volume of viable potential rotation players that could be available to them at pick No. 23 of Wednesday night’s draft. Green, Tyler Bey, Robert Woodard, Desmond Bane, Jaden McDaniels, Jalen Smith, Xavier Tillman, Zeke Nnaji. The list goes on. Even Leandro Bolmaro, or someone like Tre Jones or like Kira Lewis, if he were to slip through the draft.

A big, a guard, a wing. The Jazz will be able to choose through those three positions. A high upside pick, or a plug and play prospect. The Jazz will be able to choose through that.

All of those options and our two mock drafts came back consistent.

Josh Green.

Why?

Maybe the answer lies in the word consistent. For the Jazz, Green would represent a middle ground between long-term upside and immediate production. McDaniels almost without question is the highest upside pick the Jazz could make at No. 23. He’s the one prospect who figures to be available that has a star ceiling. But, he has the lowest floor, almost without question.

Trading up anywhere beyond a couple of spots isn’t all that likely, simply because the Jazz have limited assets to deal with. Trading back to acquire an asset? That’s more feasible. The reason that makes a little more sense? One, the Jazz could use an extra asset or two. Secondly, there are players the Jazz really like that can be had later than the No. 23 pick.

Now, let’s say someone like Villanova’s Saddiq Bey slides a bit and is still on the board after No. 19? The Jazz love Bey. I could see them burning up the phone lines in order to see if a deal could be had.

Tony has said the Jazz love Saddiq Bey for months. I've seen his draft range anywhere from 11ish to 20ish.

Indeed, Lindsey said the Jazz will make their selection with no discrimination to position. So, point guards, wings and bigs are all in play. Whomever Utah comes away with, you can be confident that is the person whom it had number one on its board at the time of the pick.