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Saint Cy of JFC said:
He's probably similarly skilled to a Sam Merrill? Though Merrill is a hyper elite shooter as evidenced by his FT%, which Saunders isnt. Saunders has better size though (ever so slightly, so not a big advantage), but less overall tertiary skills, but those may not matter all that much in the role he projects to play.
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I would say it has taken years for Saunders to extend his range. I would expect it to be hard for Richie to be the same kind shooter in the NBA. But the kid is an effort guy and hard worker. I would also say he has more overall athletic ability for finishing around the hoop. In a lot of ways he reminds me of Royce O’Neal.

Not in skills. He reminds me his size and toughness.
 
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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Hollinger usually gets some stuff right. IIRC he had Filipowski 9th and Collier 12th.
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I'm only wondering if he has turned more clickbaity. Everyone in that industry is measured by reads and likes and it must annoy many of the legit analysts when guys like Draymond and Perkins beat them on those metrics with their absolutely trash takes.
 
One thing that I noted was different when watching Tre Johnson in a full game vs highlights is how they use him. Texas really uses him like a 00's or 10's guard. It's like I'm watching Kobe or Pierce set up for a mid post isolation/faceup possession over and over. I think this is part of the reason he doesn't get the rim as much as you'd like...but it could also be the case that this is just the style that suits him the most. There's not a whole lot of north/south action going on. Ideally he's a Booker and can do both in a more modernized role.
 
In this draft I think the top-tier guys are four deep. I would be good with Flagg, Harper, Bailey or Johnson. I think Edgecombe is more of a risk than the top-four - though he could be high-risk high reward. I love his defense but the other guys are more of a sure thing, IMO. After VJ I think there's a decent talent drop-off.
 
kabenac said:
In this draft I think the top-tier guys are four deep. I would be good with Flagg, Harper, Bailey or Johnson. I think Edgecombe is more of a risk than the top-four - though he could be high-risk high reward. I love his defense but the other guys are more of a sure thing, IMO. After VJ I think there's a decent talent drop-off.
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I think it does become eye-of-the-beholder after the top 5 or so. I'd still give Kasparas some benefit of the doubt, but those guys you mentioned have a solid floor as well as star-level upside.
 
kabenac said:
In this draft I think the top-tier guys are four deep. I would be good with Flagg, Harper, Bailey or Johnson. I think Edgecombe is more of a risk than the top-four - though he could be high-risk high reward. I love his defense but the other guys are more of a sure thing, IMO. After VJ I think there's a decent talent drop-off.
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bro. Kasparas is good. I think there's a very solid chance he has a better career than VJ.
 
I'm still a big Kas guy. Honestly, the struggles are just as informative as the highlights. He's played pretty well despite his shot not falling. I don't see him as a low potential either, he has as much potential as anyone to be an elite heliocentric type player. Size/Athleticism =/= potential.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Just to add to the glaze storm, I think he’ll be able to play center if his team needs a cheat code. Kid has really wide shoulders and looks like a man among boys despite being an entire class younger than basically everyone.
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It will be hilarious when Flagg comes into the league and people realize he's pretty much the same size as Hayward.

He's just 6'8" without elite athleticism. Flagg will have a pro role but it's not gonna resemble the one at Duke.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
It will be hilarious when Flagg comes into the league and people realize he's pretty much the same size as Hayward.

He's just 6'8" without elite athleticism. Flagg will have a pro role but it's not gonna resemble the one at Duke.
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when i haven't read anything you've written for a while i totally forget how completely bereft you are of any semblance of a human in touch with reality
 
If the Jazz somehow fall to the #7 pick, I would take Derik Queen and play through him in the high post. He has the right combination of passing and scoring to be an offensive hub. Hopefully, he measures out well at the Combine.
 
Queen has been playing well, but I get less and less convinced on him by the day. At this point I’d have CMB, Newell, and Wolf all ahead of him. CMB and Newell can at least defend a position at the next level and while Wolf has similar concerns to Queen on defense, offensively he plays like a perimeter guy. Queen is dependent on playing the 5 on offense but also doesn’t have a position on defense. Not convinced of him defending at the 5 at all.

I don’t know how serious Sorber’s injury is, but I also would prefer him as I see him as a true defender at the 5.
 
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KqWIN said:
Queen has been playing well, but I get less and less convinced on him by the day. At this point I’d have CMB, Newell, and Wolf all ahead of him. CMB and Newell can at least defend a position at the next level and while Wolf has similar concerns to Queen on defense, offensively he plays like a perimeter guy. Queen is dependent on playing the 5 on offense but also doesn’t have a position on defense. Not convinced of him defending at the 5 at all.
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I honestly don’t get the Queen love. He has a particularly long way to go to be an NBA player given his speed, poor defense, and old school skill set. Ogre ball hasn’t been effective in decades at this point. He has some passing chops and can shoot a little but it doesn’t look anywhere close to sufficient for the NBA.
 
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