Following Potential 2025 Draftees

[SoberasHotRod]

Nobody is saying you can’t lol. I think it’s very skewed towards one player more than others.

I would like to see more Ace and VJ discussions as well.

Ace doesn't play smart basketball and VJ isn't an alpha scorer. It gets discussed a lot, but you could be right that Tre is more polarizing so he gets discussed more.

Honestly I'm internally conflicted about Tre. I think he's the 3rd best prospect in the draft, but I prefer prospects that are more well rounded.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jVcP3A2LCoo


I know he's much bigger than the player he rebounded over, but just look at how great Yang's hands are.

 

[Elizah Huge]

You guys say we talk about other players weaknesses but we really don’t enough. Like people saying they’re out on Tre… you’re going to be out on everyone with that outlook.

This is what I was trying to say. Basically I guess if you’re out on Tre idk how you aren’t gonna be out on almost everyone. That’s just my personal opinion tho.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

And I will honestly tell people they are wrong when they fade Tre.

That's so dumb. It's all opinion. Stop acting like you have the only right opinion

 

[KqWIN]

We’re doing the Spider-Man thing lmao. What we should really be talking about is how we project these strengths and weaknesses to go. And we need to do so not as fans of these players trying to defend their honor.

I hard disagree with the idea that “if you’re out on Tre, you’re out on everyone”. If you are high or low on Tre, it should be on the basis of how realistic you think it is that he makes those improvements. We should have the capability to discriminate between different strengths and weaknesses and be able to develop different opinions about different skills.

For example, a Tre vs Fears comparison is very simple. We know Tre needs to get to the rim and we know Fears needs to shoot it better. Whatever side you’re on here, the response can’t just be “well everyone has weaknesses it’s about projecting”. Ok….tell me why one player is more likely to improve on their weakness than the other.

If you are out on Tre, it could be because you don’t think rim pressure is something that improves in the NBA. That does not automatically mean that you must think that Fears cannot shoot it.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

That's so dumb. It's all opinion. Stop acting like you have the only right opinion

I mean, I'm not censoring anyone from having their opinion. I just think my opinion is the correct one.

I just dont agree with his perceived weakness all that much. Or at least I dont agree that his weaknesses are things that he can't do. I just think they are things he arent great at yet, but can easily improve on.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

You guys say we talk about other players weaknesses but we really don’t enough. Like people saying they’re out on Tre… you’re going to be out on everyone with that outlook.

FWIW, I'm not out on Tre, I just don't like some things about him.

 

[stitches]

You guys say we talk about other players weaknesses but we really don’t enough. Like people saying they’re out on Tre… you’re going to be out on everyone with that outlook.

For the record I'm not out on Tre. I would be perfectly fine with us picking him at 5. I just don't like the overly rosey projections I seem to be seeing here, especially when they rely on him improving things that are hard(not impossible) to improve.

 

[Elizah Huge]

People selectively apply things to prospects they like and unevenly to prospects they don't.

And honestly for a message board it's fine.

I really like Tre so you are right I might be subconsciously doing this.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

I mean, I'm not censoring anyone from having their opinion. I just think my opinion is the correct one.

I just dont agree with his perceived weakness all that much. Or at least I dont agree that his weaknesses are things that he can't do. I just think they are things he arent great at yet, but can easily improve on.

That's fair.

 

[Elizah Huge]

We’re doing the Spider-Man thing lmao. What we should really be talking about is how we project these strengths and weaknesses to go. And we need to do so not as fans of these players trying to defend their honor.

I hard disagree with the idea that “if you’re out on Tre, you’re out on everyone”. If you are high or low on Tre, it should be on the basis of how realistic you think it is that he makes those improvements. We should have the capability to discriminate between different strengths and weaknesses and be able to develop different opinions about different skills.

For example, a Tre vs Fears comparison is very simple. We know Tre needs to get to the rim and we know Fears needs to shoot it better. Whatever side you’re on here, the response can’t just be “well everyone has weaknesses it’s about projecting”. Ok….tell me why one player is more likely to improve on their weakness than the other.

If you are out on Tre, it could be because you don’t think rim pressure is something that improves in the NBA. That does not automatically mean that you must think that Fears cannot shoot it.

Besides the fact Tre is 3-4 inches taller with a 6’10 wingspan.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDNtFQ0y9WI


According to this video, Fleming's wingspan would make him the longest player in the NBA who isnt a "true" center. Kind of a debatable claim that Wemby is considered a "true" center, but still crazy nonetheless.