Gail Miller rewards Jazz executives that do a bad job. Your input.

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by Lakers_Slapper, May 11, 2019.

  1. Aneurism

    Aneurism Well-Known Member

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    Jazz are a bit like the turtoise. I think they care about rings, but they also care about the dynamic and team harmony that they build that gets the ring. Although the ring is the end goal.. I believe the focus is also on the journey as well. I think if they felt they had the had the right pieces and they were ready, a big push would come. However, until then they would probably work to try to improve in a financially and sustainable way. I personally like this about the Jazz as a whole.

    Skill, Luck and Timing are also significant in trying to get the ring. We were very lucky in getting Donovan but DL was also proactive in makign that move. The Miller family can probably also also see how hard DL works behind the scenes and probably want to reward him but also try to put him in a situation where he can focus on the things they think he can do best.

    We need to remember that the organization is also a business and business is about profit and loss. This is especially important for small market teams. Revenue has probably increased under DL's tenure and probably so too have profits ? (i'm guessing there)

    I for one can't wait for the day when all of the cogs click together in harmony.
     
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  2. jjscap

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    What's the point of being not conservative now? Utah's core is still inexperienced and it's not possible to eliminate GSW.
     
  3. jjscap

    jjscap Well-Known Member

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    By the way conservative isn't the accurate word but frugal is. In a small market you have to be as frugal as possible because every cent counts.
     
  4. Archie Moses

    Archie Moses Well-Known Member

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    She's loyal. Hard to hate her for it.
     
  5. Jack Strop

    Jack Strop Well-Known Member

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    It was Larry H. who built the organization on those principles. He was quoted a few times as saying the primary goal was to finish in the black. Maybe in his latter years he wanted a champioship, but by then the window had closed.
     
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  6. TheStormofWar

    TheStormofWar Well-Known Member

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    I rest my case.
     
  7. UtahJazz32

    UtahJazz32 Well-Known Member

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    Could have got more offense for us, cause we surely had too much of it against Houston.
     
  8. gregbroncs

    gregbroncs Well-Known Member

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    Dead clock is right 2 times a day. Burks' good games were far out numbered by his invisible ones. He had one good game against the Rockets, when they didn't have Rubio. All of the sudden he was supposed to do more than that this season? Despite the Jazz shooting worse in the playoffs this year? He would have been worse than worthless, he would have increased the problems the Jazz had this year against he Rockets, not helped.
     
  9. UtahJazz32

    UtahJazz32 Well-Known Member

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    He was restricted in Quin's system man
    You guys crucify players and belittle their impact on helping the team. Burks would have been more impactful than Korver against the Rockets. Kyle got locked down by Houston and their pressure on him. Burks slashes other than Donovan and Royce who could do that for us ? Nobody that's why we got owned. AB would have at least gave us 8-10 points against Hou which would have helped us, rather than brick jumpers
     
  10. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    He just isnt good
     
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  11. gregbroncs

    gregbroncs Well-Known Member

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    Korver barely played because of injury. They didn't lock him down. Burks was better for the Jazz than he has been since, so what system does he fit in?
     
  12. homeytennis

    homeytennis Well-Known Member

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    Burks lit it up for the Kings.
     
  13. Darkwing Duck

    Darkwing Duck Well-Known Member

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    He did?
     
  14. UtahJazz32

    UtahJazz32 Well-Known Member

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    Um when he played he sucked not because he was hurt all that much but because Houston saw him as a liability. I'm not saying AB would have won us the series but he could create his own offense which would have helped because only Donovan and Royce were our only creators on offense.
     
  15. homeytennis

    homeytennis Well-Known Member

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    Nope. He did viscious pine there.
     
  16. cctrackstar

    cctrackstar Well-Known Member

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    management: get's a team from a lottery team to fifth in the playoffs.

    Fans: what a terrible job, fire the hozers.

    on the radio the other day they went over the last ten years of the first five picks in the draft and found that very few of the TOP FIVE PICKS have become all stars. point being that very few teams are right all the time, and considering that a lot of america thinks of us as an entire state of cultists, i think he's doing great.
     
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  17. Jack Strop

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    It was management that put Utah in the lottery. Who did Lindsey sign and who did he let go? Jazz could have EASILY been a playoff team by keeping Millsap and Foye and signing a free agent PG. instead, Lindsey stripped the team of all depth and made sure the Jazz were at/near the bottom of the league for several years. it was a GM tank. Lindsey wanted lottery picks and he wanted to set up Corbin to fail. He accomplished both, but squandered all the extra picks he obtained. The big prize he got was Exum. And I think that's why he keeps believing in Dante. To give up on Dante means all that losing was for naught. It means his tanking strategy was flawed and gave Utah nothing. Of course the losing also allowed Lindsey to convince Gail to not extend Corbin when his contract expired, so I guess there's that.

    As for draft pick history, that's irrelevant. Good GM's can identify talent. Bad GM's do not. Why are the same teams in the lottery year after year? Because their GM's and coaches are terrible. And they turn over the FO and coaching staff until they hit on the right combo, like a Milwaukee or Denver who have risen due to their drafting success augmented by the right FA signings. Dennis has not done that consistently in the draft. He hasn't added very many good FA's. And the lack of good, young talent prevents making any significant trades.
     
  18. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Yeah the tough thing is our only trade chips really are reclaimed gleaguers and I think they have limited value because every GM thinks they see a few identical diamonds in the rough in the g league so why give up assets for what amounts to very replaceable scrubs.
     
  19. jom2003

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    DL greatest mistake though, was actually bringing back one of our "homegrown" player in Exum. I'd do it too at the right price. Definitely not at over 10 mil a year for 3 years fully guaranteed... Basically have to give away assets in order to dump his contract at this point.
     
  20. Bulletproof

    Bulletproof All-Jazzfanz First Team! Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Show me the post(s) where you were saying this **** before the season started.
     

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