Game Of Thrones


Archie Moses

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The worst thing about the battle of winterfell was that if there were 20k+ dothraki and unsullied where the hell were they? Not even half way through the place was depicted as a wasteland with the entire Castle overrun by the dead and only our headlining heroes there to help anyone. Again, crappy writing.

This season had so much crappy writing I wonder how many rolls of toilet paper the script was written on.
No.

The worst thing was the writers had the women, children and helpless take shelter in the crypt while fighting the army of the dead that was lead by, you know, a guy that raises the dead.

I still can't swallow that.

I agree that they made it look like there were only a handful of survivors and then viola there's a huge army.

The whole season was pretty terrible.
 


Stoked

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No.

The worst thing was the writers had the women, children and helpless take shelter in the crypt while fighting the army of the dead that was lead by, you know, a guy that raises the dead.

I still can't swallow that.

I agree that they made it look like there were only a handful of survivors and then viola there's a huge army.

The whole season was pretty terrible.

Yeah, as soon as I heard they’d be hiding in the crypt I started to laugh.

Also what about all that “training anyone over the age of 12” talk?
 

silesian

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I agree she is not meek nor timid. She is also not complicit. She has no authority nor power to prevent Viserys's death. There's a different between not being mournful and being complicit.

Merely "Not mournful" mischaracterizes Dany in that scene.

Look at her face, she is confident, cool and approving of Drogon

She wanted him dead

He just threatened to cut her child from her womb

She watched the entire head scalding episode

She never said a word in protest

When she told Viserys that he was getting his crown, she knew that he was about to get murdered.

She appeared pleased

Her last line indicates that he deserved to die.


Complicit: involved with others in an illegal activity or wrongdoing.


100% complicit





 

Wes Mantooth

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I probably missed that line because I was too busy rolling my eyes at some other nonsense that was happening haha

I mean fair enough I guess, but the idea that fully half of the Dothraki survived that cavalry charge when it is communicated visually to the viewer that they nearly all died is really ****** storytelling.

You assume that the Dothraki put all of their men there.
 

Zombie

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I agree it was surprising. I don’t think that surprises are bad. Nor are they evidence that the writers are idiots.
Surprises are satisfying when the veiwer can look back at and make sense of the events leading up to the surprise. Take Ned's death in season one for example, it's surprising when it happens but when you take all the events of season one together, it makes sense that it happened to him.

Dany's forces seemingly multiplying out of nowhere with no explanation isn't a well thought out or satisfying surprise.
 

fishonjazz

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You assume that the Dothraki put all of their men there.
I would definitely assume that they put all of their men in the battle against the dead. Pretty important battle imo.

If that assumption is right, and I'm quite certain it is, then the ending it that battle only showed a handful of people left. None of them dothraki.

Maybe they teleported more dothraki from across the seas to battle cersei. They got pretty good at teleporting at the end of the show

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LogGrad98

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Surprises are satisfying when the veiwer can look back at and make sense of the events leading up to the surprise. Take Ned's death in season one for example, it's surprising when it happens but when you take all the events of season one together, it makes sense that it happened to him.

Dany's forces seemingly multiplying out of nowhere with no explanation isn't a well thought out or satisfying surprise.
You have just defined the difference between a surprise and a mistake.
 

LogGrad98

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I would definitely assume that they put all of their men in the battle against the dead. Pretty important battle imo.

If that assumption is right, and I'm quite certain it is, then the ending it that battle only showed a handful of people left. None of them dothraki.

Maybe they teleported more dothraki from across the seas to battle cersei. They got pretty good at teleporting at the end of the show

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I don't even think that is an assumption. It was all but stated outright in the narrative. Especially after they found out no one was coming from the south to help. No way in hell they were like "hey, 20,000 of you go ahead and take the day off. Come back later for a different battle. Pretty sure this won't be any big deal."
 

silesian

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Surprises are satisfying when the veiwer can look back at and make sense of the events leading up to the surprise. Take Ned's death in season one for example, it's surprising when it happens but when you take all the events of season one together, it makes sense that it happened to him.

Dany's forces seemingly multiplying out of nowhere with no explanation isn't a well thought out or satisfying surprise.

I totally see your point. It was kinda weird. It just didn't bother me or interfere with my enjoyment.

And I'm a cynical guy who sometimes has trouble suspending disbelief.
 

Zombie

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I totally see your point. It was kinda weird. It just didn't bother me or interfere with my enjoyment.

And I'm a cynical guy who sometimes has trouble suspending disbelief.
Yeah that's cool, I guess if the much of the last few seasons weren't full of other headscratching moments this wouldn't be such a big deal. As it is it's just another example of how this show lost its way.
 

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