Game Thread: Utah Jazz Vs. Phoenix Suns April 4th @ 7:00 PM

[Brown Notes]

You realize Favors was only matched up against Lopez for a grand total of 2:22, right? Lopez was 0-1 with a foul over that period.

The rest of the game he was matched up against Kanter and (gasp) Al. One each of his O-boards came matched up against Kanter and Al. The 3 shooting fouls he drew were called on Kanter, Burks and CJ. Only 1 of his blocks was on Derrick.

And this is ignoring how irrelevant the point you're making is. Al didn't outplay Steve Nash. He didn't outplay Michael Redd either. Most importantly, he didn't outplay Derrick Favors.

Do you really think the Jazz's chances at winning that game would have been lower had Favors been given 5-10 of Al's minutes?

Mea Culpa if all your claims are true.

I didn't have the stomach to watch the game twice. I saw Favors beasting all over Morris and some other guy but not Lopez. I remember specifically the Bench being particularly ineffective. If your point is for me to admit to Jefferson had a bad game then scroll up.

Anyways you can't say Nash was just ****ting all over the Jazz with Al's terrible D in crunch time. Which is why said your claim is subjective. Certainly I have not made the claim that Jefferson was obviously superior to anyone in this game.

My point was never that Al was the clear and obvious choice, just that Favors was not either. What kept him off the floor was Sap, not Al.

 

[Nate505]

3 points from the bench in the second half tonight. 3 ****ing points.

 

[GVC]

What kept him off the floor was Sap, not Al.

********. What kept him off the floor was Ty. Favors-Millsap has been an effective frontcourt at times this season. Ty stuck with Al for 37 minutes for no good reason.

 

[Fishsticks]

Can't wit until we ship Als *** out in a few months. I predict brown note to pull a sloanfeld.

 

[//r00t 4 Jazz]

3 points from the bench in the second half tonight. 3 ****ing points.

This, the Suns bench out played the Utah bench, Morris & Redd out played the entire Utah bench to make it worse Telfair played better then anyone not named Favors off the Jazz bench.

That lucky Frye bank 3pt shot and just a few plays earlier the almost air ball 3pt shot that fell right in Dudley's hands absolutely killed the Jazz they finally played good D and the ball didn't bounce their way. Now if they'd played D like that most of the game it wouldn't have mattered.

Starters again starting the 1st Qtr slow and then tonight even came out slow in the 3rd Qtr maybe they are running out of gas and hard to really be upset with Kanter given his limited experience and being a rookie. However this would be a prime time to step up and take some more minutes but he got pushed under the rim or just gave in to the other player, for easy scores or even the one thing he usually does well rebound he was couldn't due to being under the rim.

 

[//r00t 4 Jazz]

Also on the first Nash jumper when he spit the double, Millsap somewhat had an excuse as he had Frye he was also shading to his left but again Hayward (as he did in the T-Wolves game) over commited/extended and that let Nash split for the FT line'ish jumper.
Millsap had a really good game but don't forget he also had back to back TO's in the 4th Qtr around the 2-3min range.

Not saying those cost us the game just saying there is plenty of blame to go around, besides just Jefferson's absolute horrible P&R defense (Millsap's in the 1st Qtr wasn't much better). For the young players like Hayward hopefully this is just another learning/stepping point to build upon for the future.

 

[LifeOnaPlate]

//root speaks truths.

 

[fishonjazz]

i think most of us know that brown notes says alot of stupid things and is usually always wrong, but GVC totally kicked his butt tonight.

GO GVC!

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

3 points from the bench in the second half tonight. 3 ****ing points.

********. What kept him off the floor was Ty. Favors-Millsap has been an effective frontcourt at times this season. Ty stuck with Al for 37 minutes for no good reason.

I think what Nate said was probably the reason.

 

[zman1527]

Starters again starting the 1st Qtr slow and then tonight even came out slow in the 3rd Qtr .

Time and time again Ty watches his team come out and give up easy bucket after easy bucket to start the game. No TO's , no butt chewing, no benchings. And that is why it happens time after time.

 

[//r00t 4 Jazz]

Time and time again Ty watches his team come out and give up easy bucket after easy bucket to start the game. No TO's , no butt chewing, no benchings. And that is why it happens time after time.

He called a pretty quick TO last night once the Suns went up 10-2 (or 4 whatever it was) it was about 2-3min into the game. I don't think most coaches make a change to their starting line up that quick and realistically the only person I think he would yank that quickly that is starting is CJ (which he kind of did in Porty around the 6min mark) but CJ was the only starter that looked aggressive to start last night.

Some similar complaints about Sloan that he never benched any of the starters for poor defense, hustle or whatever. Sloan would yell however but so far that doesn't seem to be Corbin's style, seen it a little but not much, he seems more like a positive reinforcement kind of coach (but I could be wrong).

I would like this slow start pattern to change but I'm also trying to think realistic and think of what he could do. I know Sloan would occasionally start with a passing offense to try and get everybody to touch the ball, guess that could work. When Harris gets back I'd like him to say run to the rim no matter what on the first couple of possessions, get fouled, get a layup or back it out if nothings there but just something to try and get some energy going.

 

[zman1527]

He called a pretty quick TO last night once the Suns went up 10-2 (or 4 whatever it was) it was about 2-3min into the game. I don't think most coaches make a change to their starting line up that quick and realistically the only person I think he would yank that quickly that is starting is CJ (which he kind of did in Porty around the 6min mark) but CJ was the only starter that looked aggressive to start last night.

Some similar complaints about Sloan that he never benched any of the starters for poor defense, hustle or whatever. Sloan would yell however but so far that doesn't seem to be Corbin's style, seen it a little but not much, he seems more like a positive reinforcement kind of coach (but I could be wrong).

I would like this slow start pattern to change but I'm also trying to think realistic and think of what he could do. I know Sloan would occasionally start with a passing offense to try and get everybody to touch the ball, guess that could work. When Harris gets back I'd like him to say run to the rim no matter what on the first couple of possessions, get fouled, get a layup or back it out if nothings there but just something to try and get some energy going.

Yup: Ty learned it all from Ol' Jer. Talk big about defense but never actually do anything to enforce it. What can he do? Start Favors over Sap or Big Al.

Sap and Big Al are a terrible defensive tandem. Good O, no D. At times, horrible horrible D. Like to start the games last night where Gortat had a layup drill going on. And remember the early game against the Clips? It was on TNT and Hubie was exclaiming about how the first 5 buckets the clips got were highlight reel dunks. And what did Tyrone do then? Nada.

It seems to me that the Jazz coaches, Jer and now Ty, are just very very stuck on running the "Jazz" offense, and defense be damned.