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Gamethread: Utah @ Jeffersons Tonight 5pm or some such time

Mission Accomplished said:
we have plenty of solid players it is time to really complement them with a future star
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like i said only surest future star in this draft is jabari parker. anybody in the draft has potential to be just a good solid player. just look at wiggins today. guys can't consistently hit the jumper yet. and he gets lost in the game. he basically is still a 'potential' guy. embiid looked legit, but again so did thabeet when many claimed he would be legit. randle was beasting against lesser talent. he always looks solid, but there is no guaranteeing that he will be a future star. could just be a solid 17/10 guy

BOTTOM LINE. THERE IS NO SHAQ, NO BRON, NO ANTHONY DAVIS, NO D ROSE, NO DWIGHT HOWARD IN THIS DRAFT. only transcendent talent i see is jabari parker.


espn is hyping this draft little too much.
 
Every gamethread should have its own Boxscore.

So I stole this one from LP.

Heh.




[TABLE="width: 693"]
[TR]
[TH="class: teamName, align: left"]UTAH[/TH]
[TH] P [/TH]
[TH]MIN[/TH]
[TH]FGM-A[/TH]
[TH]3PM-A[/TH]
[TH]FTM-A[/TH]
[TH]+/-[/TH]
[TH]OFF[/TH]
[TH]DEF[/TH]
[TH]TOT[/TH]
[TH]AST[/TH]
[TH]PF[/TH]
[TH]ST[/TH]
[TH]TO[/TH]
[TH]BS[/TH]
[TH]BA[/TH]
[TH]PTS[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd, bgcolor: #222222"]
[TD="class: first uta, align: left"]Richard Jefferson[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]F[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]20:49[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]5-10[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]2-4[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]1-2[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]+20[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]13[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: first uta, align: left"]Marvin Williams[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]29:39[/TD]
[TD]2-8[/TD]
[TD]1-3[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]+12[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd, bgcolor: #222222"]
[TD="class: first uta, align: left"]Derrick Favors[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]35:32[/TD]
[TD]5-11[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]4-4[/TD]
[TD]+5[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: first uta, align: left"]Gordon Hayward[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]37:05[/TD]
[TD]3-11[/TD]
[TD]2-4[/TD]
[TD]4-4[/TD]
[TD]+9[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd, bgcolor: #222222"]
[TD="class: first uta, align: left"]Trey Burke[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]26:23[/TD]
[TD]7-16[/TD]
[TD]4-8[/TD]
[TD]2-2[/TD]
[TD]+14[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: first uta, align: left"]Alec Burks[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]30:05[/TD]
[TD]4-8[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]3-4[/TD]
[TD]-19[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd, bgcolor: #222222"]
[TD="class: first uta, align: left"]Diante Garrett[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]05:13[/TD]
[TD]0-1[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]-8[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: first uta, align: left"]Enes Kanter[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]17:42[/TD]
[TD]4-8[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]-6[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd, bgcolor: #222222"]
[TD="class: first uta, align: left"]Brandon Rush[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]08:01[/TD]
[TD]0-2[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]-4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: first uta, align: left"]John Lucas III[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]16:24[/TD]
[TD]1-3[/TD]
[TD]1-2[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]-3[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd, bgcolor: #222222"]
[TD="class: first uta, align: left"]Jeremy Evans[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]13:07[/TD]
[TD]1-5[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]0-2[/TD]
[TD]-5[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: first, align: left"]Totals[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]32-83[/TD]
[TD]10-21[/TD]
[TD]14-18[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]32[/TD]
[TD]44[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]88[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="class: teamName, align: left"]CHARLOTTE[/TH]
[TH] P [/TH]
[TH]MIN[/TH]
[TH]FGM-A[/TH]
[TH]3PM-A[/TH]
[TH]FTM-A[/TH]
[TH]+/-[/TH]
[TH]OFF[/TH]
[TH]DEF[/TH]
[TH]TOT[/TH]
[TH]AST[/TH]
[TH]PF[/TH]
[TH]ST[/TH]
[TH]TO[/TH]
[TH]BS[/TH]
[TH]BA[/TH]
[TH]PTS[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd, bgcolor: #222222"]
[TD="class: first cha, align: left"]Anthony Tolliver[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]F[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]25:53[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]1-5[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]0-3[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]0-0[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]-4[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: first"]2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: first cha, align: left"]Josh McRoberts[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]28:53[/TD]
[TD]1-5[/TD]
[TD]0-1[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]-8[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd, bgcolor: #222222"]
[TD="class: first cha, align: left"]Al Jefferson[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]30:58[/TD]
[TD]9-19[/TD]
[TD]0-1[/TD]
[TD]1-3[/TD]
[TD]-3[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: first cha, align: left"]Gerald Henderson[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]29:51[/TD]
[TD]4-14[/TD]
[TD]0-1[/TD]
[TD]4-4[/TD]
[TD]-5[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd, bgcolor: #222222"]
[TD="class: first cha, align: left"]Kemba Walker[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]33:40[/TD]
[TD]9-16[/TD]
[TD]1-2[/TD]
[TD]1-2[/TD]
[TD]-3[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: first cha, align: left"]Cody Zeller[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]19:07[/TD]
[TD]4-5[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]+5[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd, bgcolor: #222222"]
[TD="class: first cha, align: left"]Chris Douglas-Roberts[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]17:57[/TD]
[TD]0-1[/TD]
[TD]0-1[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]+2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: first cha, align: left"]Bismack Biyombo[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]17:02[/TD]
[TD]2-3[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]1-2[/TD]
[TD]+0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd, bgcolor: #222222"]
[TD="class: first cha, align: left"]Ramon Sessions[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]24:18[/TD]
[TD]4-10[/TD]
[TD]1-2[/TD]
[TD]4-5[/TD]
[TD]+5[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: first cha, align: left"]Ben Gordon[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]12:21[/TD]
[TD]2-5[/TD]
[TD]0-1[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]-4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[/TR]
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Yay, another win. Do we need a franchise player or a very good starting player, that could be difference between pick 1-4 or 5-12.
 
It's depressing, because the way we are playing we won't get a top 3 pick. Hayward has not stepped up to be that man. Without Parker or Wiggins or Hayward playing well we are in a tough situation moving forward.
 
Would y'all relax! This is an incredibly deep draft, and potentially holds 4-6 stars

Wiggins
Parker
Randle
Embiid
Exum
Smart
Am I missing anyone?

I do suggest a long losing streak soon though, so we can insure a top six pick, and who knows maybe the ping pong balls will get us another top three pick.
 
GVC said:
Bringing one of your top 3 ball handlers/creators off the bench balances lineups. Burks is getting 30+ minutes per game and closing. The Jazz don't have anyone else to slide into RJ's role right now (unless Ty slides Marvin back to the 3, which may happen at some point if/when Kanter/Gobert/Rush/Clark are ready for more minutes).
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Your absolutely right that Jefferson balances the lineup and every five games or so he has a really good game. Again, who cares. Start Burks and Play Ian Clark instead as a backup for spot minutes. Jefferson is just using us and told the Jazz he will not resign (freakin championship hunting) . Who cares if Jefferson wins us a couple more games that we would be better off losing.
 
Back to the game, rebounding is really starting to piss me off, Jazz give up WAY to many offensive Rebounds. Even Favors gave up to many this game to Jefferson, okay that is all, just needed to let that out.

Currently the Jazz have the most losses out of any team in the NBA, only the Bucks have a worse winning percentage, again this is a long season other bad teams will go on a small winning streak and the Jazz young players will have slumps. As someone else said before the season started nobody thought the Jazz would have the worst record but be in the running for the top 5 worst records, the horrible start got fans overly rooting to have the worst record when it really wasn't ever a realistic option (baring injuries).
 
Darkwing Duck said:
In NBA basketball, if you get 6 fouls, which are illegal physical impedements of the opposing team players, they don't allow you to play anymore.
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Just curious did burke foul out or even come close?
 
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