Maybe now isn't the right time to say neener-neener, but do what you've got to do.
Maybe now isn't the right time to say neener-neener, but do what you've got to do.
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Trust me, I didn't mean it in that way. I was just floored to see the contrast, and felt it was worth sharing.
This attack is unusual, to say the least. It is simply not the typical MO of radical Islamists to target elements of Western society they disapprove of, and they often go for indiscriminate civilian casualties as to incite terror within society. I am inclined to assume that this individual was fully assimilated in American society, as those kinds of attacks are more commonly conducted by Western elements like White Supremacists and radical Christians.
You don't get it. Islamists and jihadists despise a lot of aspects of western culture. In this case it's extremely well articulated. In others less so - the concert in Paris. Charlie Hebdo was another well articulated and specific attack against specific target.
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Can u find any evidence of this terrorist being at ALL religious?
Well, I'm going by what the FBI is saying. They say he's been on their watch list for connections with Islamic extremists. There are also news reports that the guy called 911 and swore his allegiance to al-Baghdadi of ISIS before the shooting massacre.
I'm pretty sure I do get it. Charlie Hebdo attacks were a response to their Mohammad cartoons. This is the first time, as far as I'm aware, where a Muslim committed an act of terror in the fashion of typical Western hate crimes. In the Middle East, they do this all the time, because they are trying to shape society in their own vision. They have no such ambitions in the West.
I have little doubt that the terrorist in question has religious motives. It is difficult to hate gays strongly enough to want to kill them without the involvement of religion. But It will not be an ISIS directed attacks, regardless of the attacker's new-found allegiance to ISIS.
Yeah, that's fair. That's kind of a new type of terrorism I guess - lone wolves getting inspired by extremists, not directly getting instructions by ISIS or other terrorist organizations.. The San Bernardino one was perpetrated by lone wolves, too. Just in the first case the target seems more random, while now it looks more... targeted.
They specifically said he was not on any terror watch list. Where are you getting your info?
Ya, that's all I'm saying. I'm pretty sure the motives are religious, but the target is unusual. Hard not to draw the conclusion that the attacker was an assimilated Westerner, because why else would you feel so strongly about gays in America? If you're the typical non-assimilated Muslim (rare in the US), then what would you care about American gay clubs? All non-Muslim would be equally guilty in your eyes anyway.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/12/omar-mateen-id-d-as-orlando-killer.html
I misspoke. They don't say he's been on their watch list, but they say he was investigated in 2013 and 2014 and “He’s been on the radar before.”