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Gay Nightclub mass shooting -- Orlando, Florida

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As a Muslim, I would save one of those gay people's life if it would be worth the wipe out of the entire religious extremists in the world. Gay means happy in English. Insanity. It's not even enough to describe the level of screwed up-ness of this kind of thing. I pray to God that one day good people will unite and wipe the ignorance and violence off the earth.
 
addictionary said:
I pray to God that one day good people will unite and wipe the ignorance and violence off the earth.
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I'm not being condescending but in order to achieve this we need people to actually do something and not just rely on praying to whom ever their god is. Violence and hate can be eradicated, it's not in our DNA as a species to want to kill people, or turn our backs on people. It's usually your upbringing and the messages you hear as a kid turning into a young adult than by the time you can start thinking for yourself your brainwashed into hating a certain group or groups of people that you that you know nothing about.
 
dalamon said:
How's this for a stat:


8 mass shootings in Canada in the last 20 years.

7 in America since last Monday
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Can someone please adjust this for population size? I am a idiot and cannot figure it out. Still I know Canada is a much safer place to live and repped [MENTION=848]dalamon[/MENTION]. Can you please explain why so many psychos we have verse Canada?
 
tfivas said:
I'm not being condescending but in order to achieve this we need people to actually do something and not just rely on praying to whom ever their god is. Violence and hate can be eradicated, it's not in our DNA as a species to want to kill people, or turn our backs on people. It's usually your upbringing and the messages you hear as a kid turning into a young adult than by the time you can start thinking for yourself your brainwashed into hating a certain group or groups of people that you that you know nothing about.
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You are right, there is no good in just sitting on our asses praying. We have to take action every time we face the evil. But as simple folk, we cannot fight them back like they do. I see ignorance as a root for this kind of evil. I'm sure every person can do their best to fight that.
 
Siro said:
If he truly turns out not to have religious motives, then it would have been a lot more productive of him to have come out of the closet. 50+ lives would have bee spared.

No way a straight, secular man, cares this deeply about men kissing each other.
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You're right in saying that The greater Muslim community has a huge Homophobia problem. And it needs to be addressed.
 
#bern said:
I just don't get it. I mean, look, I disagree with homosexuality, sex before marriage, etc etc. I'm one of those nasty fundamentalist Christians. I'm what's labeled as a radical Chrisfian. Never, ever, ever have I wanted to kill somebody because I disagree with how they live their life. I don't even want to punch them, verbally abuse them, anything like that. Why is it so hard to just treat a person decently? I can disagree with somebody and still get along with them. It's not actually that hard.
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Probably because you're mentally sane tbh
 
stitches said:
Being aligned against ISIS is not that terribly hard or noteworthy. Even Al-Quaeda is in a war against ISIS. I know there are plenty of moderate Muslims and reformers speaking against ISIS and their backwards attitudes and they deserve our full support especially having in mind the personal risk they are taking. Something that needs to be pointed out regularly is that Muslims are the most frequent victims of ISIS and it is by a LONG MILE!

My biggest concern though is that religious leaders and community leaders don't do enough to fight against bigoted attitudes as a whole contained in their religions(not necessarily just anti-ISIS rhetoric).

How do you explain mosques inviting speakers who preach how the compassionate thing to do for gays is to kill them and get rid off them? And when asked to comment all they can say is "this is a private event and our speakers have the right to say whatever they want". Sure they have that right, that's not the question here.

There are plenty of polls among Muslim communities in the western world that produce results that are worrying about attitudes towards women, gays, non-believers, apostates, etc.

And don't get me wrong I have almost the same level of contempt for Christian preachers preaching similar messages, but at least with them we've gotten to a place where the worst of them 'just' want the gays not to marry or to get them rounded up and put them in a concentration camp.
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Lol umm someone has no idea what's going on with gays in Uganda
 
stitches said:
Those should be called out and condemned on the spot and precisely Muslims are in the best position to do it.
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Im sorry but you have to be incredibly ignorant to not think that this is happening.
 
#bern said:
I just don't get it. I mean, look, I disagree with homosexuality
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You disagree with homosexuality? What the hell does that mean? Can I disagree with people being black or people being Muslim? How about the disabled? Women?

You know what? **** you. **** you and everyone else who spouts this ******** of "I don't approve of who you are but I'm kinda okay with you" and pretends that it doesn't create a culture. That it doesn't lead to homophobia. That it doesn't lead to a guy taking a gun and killing fifty people and wounding another fifty. Because the guy didn't just get like that. You don't just shoot black people or gay people or whoever else. You do it because there's a chunk of society that normalizes hatred of other groups. And yes, those like you hide behind their ******** veneer of "disagreement"(just be honest to yourself and us and say that you think less of gay people) and then pretend that you and so many others looking down on what someone does or who someone is isn't a big deal. It doesn't contribute to anything, and certainly not violence. You just disagree. No biggie.

100 casualties, but this nice man just disagrees with homosexuality. Doesn't want them dead. Just disagrees with them.
 
addictionary said:
You are right, there is no good in just sitting on our asses praying. We have to take action every time we face the evil. But as simple folk, we cannot fight them back like they do. I see ignorance as a root for this kind of evil. I'm sure every person can do their best to fight that.
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Why cannot we? Honest question. Why can we not take it to those who are so backwards they and there children have no hope? I am not talking only Muslims but North Korea Africa and the bad parts of America. What is wrong with eradicating violent peoples?
 
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