Freedom isn't about what's easy.
General Conference - Fall 2010
- Thread starter colton
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Freedom isn't about what's easy.
Let me be clearer; I don't particularly care if the church performs gay temple marriage. I care if they publicly promote and make a significant issue about sexual orientation being a choice and that gay people can learn to be straight. There's a lot more evidence that homosexuality is inborn than to the contrary, and it's categorically damaging and false to put forth the notion that orientation can be changed. The views put forth in To the One and the practices of Evergreen are repugnant and it baffles me that anyone could defend such ugly thoughts (and actions in the case of Evergreen), especially since it puts insane amounts of pressure on gay LDS youth whether internally or strife within the family.
Our society has come a long way with respect to civil rights in the last 100 years but I still have a hard time believing we're not farther along. I'll stop just short of a rant about religion's inherent negative impact on the progress of society and science.
But, in 50 years, Packer's views and those of his ilk are going to look as absurd as any of the opposition of previous civil rights movements
G-O-A-T
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Agree with you 100%... some can deal and some can't. The thing is, many factors which harm the chemically disadvantaged can be controlled... it's just a matter of being consciously sensitive to them. Furthermore, it takes little to no effort to make that sacrifice... in fact, I'd say it takes more of an effort to go out of your way to hurt someone than it does to leave them be.
Here's a pun, your hate is making me Numb.
They publicly oppose gay marriage. They privately promote religious values in a religious venue. You have some anger issues and are more than biased. A little study could do a lot to sooth your frustrations.
unluckyseventeen
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Are you kidding? Page 4 was literally one of the dumbest pages in Jazzfanz history. A very good portion of the members on this forum can't form an intelligent point if their life depended on it, yet they choose to participate in discussions like this. Their method of making an intelligent argument is to mock the people that have perfectly valid points.
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unluckyseventeen
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It's true, and the last person I said this to went completely ape ****. It's like people can't handle that the world changes and acceptance expands as time goes on.
The shining example is seeing how many old people are still racist against black people, when anybody from our generation would say something racist and likely get their *** beaten. Standards change, and this is yet another standard that is inevitably going to change. But, people can't handle that for whatever reason.
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Cracker!....Nope....didn't get my *** beaten.
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If they're that easy to mock, maybe they're not as valid as you claim. Just a thought.
What the hell are you talking about? Because I care unequivocally about an individual's rights and their treatment I am biased? Are you sure you even know what that word means or rather, how it should be or is usually applied? And a little study of what could sooth my frustrations? If that was an attempt to proselytize, you are barking up the wrong tree.
Also, you found a way to address absolutely NOTHING I had said. Good job. That's what the quote feature is there for.
There'd have to be any level of innate value in mockery as a concept for that to be true. That you seem to believe that is revealing.
The homophobic remarks in that thread were getting out of control. Any time people are casually referring to others as "gaywads" "fudgepackers" etc in a completely unproblematic way the discussion is not something that I'm willing to tolerate on these boards.