God and Country
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SteakNEggs
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Lol f* Qanon type fear mongering. Lol addicts man. Your party is marching against Jews, literally marching chanting death to America. You guys in this very thread are openly hating Christians... openly.
It's so damn obvious how much you all want to kill other Americans. Blaming me for your blood lust. No. We do not want war. Now you go. Watch this... he wont. He can't. It's impossible for him.
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Al-O-Meter
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Yes. Historically, disagreements are settled in a democracy by violence. The Founders warned us of this quirk of democracy a quarter of a millennia ago when they wrote in Federalist #10:
SteakNEggs
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We have the Christian and Jew hating Nationalist calling others out while Democrats are shutting down colleges, insurrecting city blocks again, spewing death to America, spreading fear and literal Nazi'ism across our country towards Jews and Christianity This is now happening on forums like this very thread, in colleges, in the work place and the streets. I've always wondered how Nazi Germany happened but it's right in front of us right now. These people aren't even hiding their hate for not only the Jewish and Christian religion but for this beautiful country.
Attacking Western civilization, attacking police, attacking Western Religion, intimidating Jews and Christians at schools, at rallys, at work, on sports forums is all part of the plan to eliminate Capitalism. Let's not forget about brainwashing children that biology is not 100% factual and hiding these freaks teaching sexuality to kindergarten children to secretly turn them on their parents. Brainwashing.... Attacking women and their Title IX constitutional right of privacy in the biggest human rights violation since Democrats put Japanese in internment camps. This is all part of the Marx's Communist and Mein Kampf. I'm noe saying that to troll this is Literally how the Brown shirts were made and Karl Marx described it in Communist Manifesto. Literally...by...the...book... different ideologies oddly but same goal. Hate and terrorism.
Oh but Christian Nationalist are the problem. People that love America and read the Bible are "going to make America Russia in 2025"... what a flat out stupid conspiracy. The only ones out spewing hatred towards others are the very people hating Christians. The only ones shutting down colleges is those pointing the finger at Christians.. Shutting down city streets, showing up at work to spew hate.
Edit: Oh I forgot about arresting political opponents... something that only these fascist dictators like Hitler, Stalin, and Moa did. Literally rigging elections by unconstitutionally taking leading candidates out of voters hands while claimimg people who believe in God are the problem and dictators...
Attacking Western civilization, attacking police, attacking Western Religion, intimidating Jews and Christians at schools, at rallys, at work, on sports forums is all part of the plan to eliminate Capitalism. Let's not forget about brainwashing children that biology is not 100% factual and hiding these freaks teaching sexuality to kindergarten children to secretly turn them on their parents. Brainwashing.... Attacking women and their Title IX constitutional right of privacy in the biggest human rights violation since Democrats put Japanese in internment camps. This is all part of the Marx's Communist and Mein Kampf. I'm noe saying that to troll this is Literally how the Brown shirts were made and Karl Marx described it in Communist Manifesto. Literally...by...the...book... different ideologies oddly but same goal. Hate and terrorism.
Oh but Christian Nationalist are the problem. People that love America and read the Bible are "going to make America Russia in 2025"... what a flat out stupid conspiracy. The only ones out spewing hatred towards others are the very people hating Christians. The only ones shutting down colleges is those pointing the finger at Christians.. Shutting down city streets, showing up at work to spew hate.
Edit: Oh I forgot about arresting political opponents... something that only these fascist dictators like Hitler, Stalin, and Moa did. Literally rigging elections by unconstitutionally taking leading candidates out of voters hands while claimimg people who believe in God are the problem and dictators...
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I don’t think Christian nationalists have a monopoly on Christianity. I’m very Christian but I find Christian nationalists to be unbelievably low info and deplorable and Christian nationalism to be a repugnant ideology. It’d quite antithetical to the actual Christianity that Christ taught. His kingdom is not of this world. It knows no border or ethnicity. It’s not like Christ said, “American Christians are the best and if you happened to be born a few miles north, well **** you.”
Jesus the Christ and his kingdom are for anyone anywhere that is willing to take upon his name and abide by his teachings. His kingdom is actually antithetical to nationalism. I should love the foreigner just as a neighbor because at the end of the day, we’re both children of god. This is the Christianity that I believe in. Christian nationalism is merely fascism with a Bible.
Jesus the Christ and his kingdom are for anyone anywhere that is willing to take upon his name and abide by his teachings. His kingdom is actually antithetical to nationalism. I should love the foreigner just as a neighbor because at the end of the day, we’re both children of god. This is the Christianity that I believe in. Christian nationalism is merely fascism with a Bible.
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I’m pretty sure I saw an advertisement for it today!
Lol! Republicans could instantly win back congress if they just dropped 2-3 dotards in each house from their party. What thinking person actually likes Gaetz, MTG, Bobo, Cruz, Mike Lee, and football coach?
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Red
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I have created a thread around the existence of Christian nationalism within the body politic. And here it is. Your mistake, and I’ll assume it’s only a mistake, is to think my problem is with Christianity, when it’s clearly with nationalism. Do you understand nuance? I hope it’s not me you’re calling hateful of Jews and Christians.
It’s not easy being a human being. Many people rely on spiritual beliefs to get them through a day, to get them through a life. I was raised a Roman Catholic. As I told you earlier, I spent years exploring the inner traditions, not the outer beliefs, of many faiths. Loved reading the works of Christian mystics. St. John of the Cross. If you want to understand the “dark night of the soul”, his are the works to read. St. Teresa of Avila. Read the mystics of all faiths. I wanted to hear their experiences. I wanted those experiences myself. Wanted to know God personally. Decided to seek out a religious order to join, believe the monastic life would be best for me, in this lifetime. I was not satisfied with the outer faith I was raised in, including the first 7 grades taught by nuns. I needed to know more. I wanted to know God.
In the long run, I did not live a monastic life, but never stopped seeking the truth about the nature of reality, the purpose of human life, the common thread at the core of all faiths. And this is the man you think is brainwashing people here to hate Jews and Christians?? There was, there is, no hatred at all in my heart for Jews or Christians. None.
As noted, for the purpose of thinking kindly toward you, I will assume this is all a case of mistaken understanding on your part. I’ve been a seeker since I was a child. We are all in the same boat. It simply is not easy being human. I considered once, that since humans may be the only animal that experiences “existential angst”, that is, knowing we are going to die, that perhaps faith was evolutions way of helping such a self reflecting animal to deal with that realization of mortality. I still wonder about that, but personal spiritual experiences suggest otherwise to me.
I just hope it’s not me you are calling hateful toward people of faith, Jews, Christians, seekers like myself. I don’t like that at all. You have no right, at all, to judge me in such a manner. Shame on you for spewing so much venom toward myself and others. You can read the words of many, many priests and ministers speaking out against Christian nationalism.
Red
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I’m sure thinking people in this forum can see where all the anger and hatred is coming from. Does not have to be like this. This does not have to stand. At all. Someone needs to grow up and stop making believe the anger and hatred is stemming from those who actually care, are actually concerned. If it requires self understanding, let it be so…
What Is Christian Nationalism? - Christianity Today
An explainer on how the belief differs from other forms of nationalism, patriotism, and Christianity.
www.christianitytoday.com
SteakNEggs
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Thank you... I honestly want to debate like this but I always just get mocked, called names, told "f* the poors", told I'm a troll, or literally told I should be genocided when I'm concerned with my right leaning beliefs. Now I'm far from innocent, I admit this is, but I only dish out what I get. I don't constantly refer to you as a cult or want you put up against a wall and shot like Log and Fish thought was funny yesterday. That's messed up. Anyways...
As far as Nationalist... the very first definition I look up is "a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations."... what is exactly wrong with this? To me it seems like anyone who is Christian, loves this amazing country,, and just wants to get out of being the world police is being called a villain. Right? Because people like me are tired of funding and being part of these needless death filled wars we are somehow basically labeled a terrorist organization. We've basically been in war since I've been born and what has any of these wars accomplished? Nothing.... literally nothing.
Christian-relating to or professing Christianity or its teachings.
Nationalist -a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.
So with that would Zelenskyy be a Nationalist? What has Ukraine done for anyone? Ever? I ask this simple question and get told what a stupid POS I am. You have America supporting over 50% of this war and all we get is begging for more money that we don't have. Where is this hundreds of billions coming from? Are we not at the breaking point of 35 TRILLION dollars. Why am I such a terrible human for asking some very common sense questions. I would love someone to explain how a person massively in debt can just go out and give his friends a butt load of money.
A good faction of democrats fully support and are even rioting in the streets for Palestine. A country that is 98% Muslim that dislikes Jews(this can go both ways with Israel). Do they want Judaism in Palestine? Do these people shutting down colleges with intimidation and force want Jews even around them? No they do not. A huge chunk Democrat party openly supports and loves Palestine. How are they not Palestine Nationalist? Hell even the millions of innocent people in Palestine that support Islam and don't want Israel(Jewish) influence in their 98% Muslim country...does that make them Nationalist? What is so terrible about that? Nothing in my mind until they start using literal Brown shirt tactics to intimidate and bully Jews in everywhere they go. Christian Nationalist are doing absolutely nothing of the sort
And that's where I get my idea of you attacking people due to simply loving America, the Bible, and wanting to focus on our own problems rather than everyone else's. MTG is a bottom dweller but she's not wrong here. I literally run(2nd in command) a very major hardware big box store. I have thousands of clients and I hear how they are struggling. I see them going bankrupt, I have to hear every single day about how expensive even the most basic items are. Right now is fertilizer season. I am getting absolutely bombarded by complaints. As I said yesterday I am in charge of pricing and when I have to pay more because I'm charges more I have to hike prices. These needless wars that have no ending in sight is having some major effects. And for what? Another Afghanistan? Another Vietnam? There is no end for this war. None. That does not make some terrible "Nationalist" that's going to turn America into Russia by 2025 like @The Thriller claims. What an absurd and downright dangerous conspiracy. It's a flat out lie. Just like your documentary that you posted that completely over exaggerated that Jan 6th was some Christian Nationalist event when it reality it was mainly just a bunch of idiot rednecks and a small faction of hate agitators .There were no seas of Christian flags and crosses. There were most definitely some but nowhere near "seas". That is propaganda in my eyes.
With all due respect we are tired of these unfounded labels. We, Trump supporters, cant even like God(I'm an agnostic) and want our own country to be the focus, not Israel, not freeing up billions for Iran, not Ukraine. Many of us got duped by Bush and we are straight up tired of death and destruction. We are tired throwing literally hundreds of billions at a wall, and for what? We want more Christianity or the fear of God back into schools. I live amongst these people, they are very good humans. You have no right(well you do) to make my friends and neighbors out to be some invisible enemy. We are not the enemy. We have no intentions of turning America into a dictator country like you guys are pushing.
Christian Nationalist are not the ones shutting down schools. They are the ones showing up to work and intimidating Jews. They are at home reading Bibles and loving this amazing country. And yes there are bad apples but you are making even good apples into terrible apples by these labels. Meanwhile you stay silent about all the Jew hatred across the country right now. The people chanting death to America and literally insurrecting Colleges. That is where and why I call you out. You are basically saying "hey look over there at those damn Christians" while staying dead quiet about Jews being attacked. Jews and in my opinion Christianity is being openly attacked and you stay silent yet you make a huge fuss about people who love America, think America should be our main focus, and read a Bible. Ignoring the actual threats that are shutting down schools meanwhile pointing at Christians. That is where I get my idea that you are blindly attacking Christianity and Jews. You are sure quick to point out some Christians flaws but are nowhere to be found when Jews and Christianity is being attacked right in front of our faces. That is my explanation as to why I say the things I say. I fully believe this is an attack on Western Civilization and I believe you know this. That is why you pick and chose what to be outraged about. I'm actually sorry to be blunt there but that is my side of the story
SteakNEggs
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What Thriller posted is nothing more than a bat crazy Qanon type of conspiracy. This type of unfounded stuff is just dangerous. Your own article admits this "The documents obtained by POLITICO do not outline specific Christian nationalist policies." It's literally all just diatribe with no actual substance by a left leaning publication. They admittedly have no policies but there sure did creat some out of thin air.I’m sure thinking people in this forum can see where all the anger and hatred is coming from. Does not have to be like this. This does not have to stand. At all. Someone needs to grow up and stop making believe the anger and hatred is stemming from those who actually care, are actually concerned. If it requires self understanding, let it be so…
What Is Christian Nationalism? - Christianity Today
An explainer on how the belief differs from other forms of nationalism, patriotism, and Christianity.
Propaganda-information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
And personally after how many of you treated people over COVID and mask, and bullying people for using their own methods? It's hard to take you seriously on Authorizationism(made up word). Not only that I never saw Trump go completely over the Supreme Courts rulings like Biden had with buying college votes. I was literally told I should be in jail and I should die a painful death because I asked questions. Where were you guys there while complaining about Authortarians?
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