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Read what I wrote to Stoked.

In short, I've never heard so much absolute contempt (without any opposing support) for a candidate.
I hope you're right. I'm not seeing it the same way as you at all. I do think that if the media turned on Clinton (simply by publicizing what we already know) she would not have a prayer.
 
I hope you're right. I'm not seeing it the same way as you at all. I do think that if the media turned on Clinton (simply by publicizing what we already know) she would not have a prayer.

I'll put it another way. Go out and ask 50 people if they would vote for her. Come back with your results.
 
This is crazy guys. People may dislike hillary, but they dislike the other candidates way more. Unless someone like mitt or Joe Biden comes into the race, it's an inevitability that hillary will be the next president. If you can't see this, you are lying to yourselves.

*don't take this as me supporting hillary. I don't support her. Just being realistic.
 
I'll put it another way. Go out and ask 50 people if they would vote for her. Come back with your results.
I'm in Utah so it really wouldn't matter if I asked 10,000 people who they will vote for. The Republican candidate will win this state. But based on the polling I've seen Hillary has an excellent chance to win in that handful of states that matter. (Electoral college is such a stupid way to do this.)
 
I am in rural Utah and the number of Sanders supporters surprises me. He won't win here but they are far more numerous than I thought.
 
I am in rural Utah and the number of Sanders supporters surprises me. He won't win here but they are far more numerous than I thought.

You live in a college town. Not really surprising a lot of people feel the bern.
 
This is crazy guys. People may dislike hillary, but they dislike the other candidates way more. Unless someone like mitt or Joe Biden comes into the race, it's an inevitability that hillary will be the next president. If you can't see this, you are lying to yourselves.

*don't take this as me supporting hillary. I don't support her. Just being realistic.
Fwiw I believe the latest poll shows her losing to all of the major republican candidates except for Trump.
 
Canada feels the Bern

Canada also wants the Keystone pipeline, wants America to secure it's arctic oil interests, and underfunds its NATO obligations.

Woot Canada:/

Srsly dal. America can't afford the sort of things da Bern talks about in large part because we do things like bomb Milosevic after a year of trying to get other nations to step up for once. The rest of the world sucks 10 times harder if America is Canada.
 
I'm in Utah so it really wouldn't matter if I asked 10,000 people who they will vote for. The Republican candidate will win this state. But based on the polling I've seen Hillary has an excellent chance to win in that handful of states that matter. (Electoral college is such a stupid way to do this.)

I disagree. Like I said, if the GOP throws Rubio (or Bush)/Kasich out there, they're gonna grab Florida and Ohio which are the two biggest swing states. If they take those, it wouldn't even be close imo. Look at history. Those states are crucial and they're there for the taking for the GOP.
 
Fwiw I believe the latest poll shows her losing to all of the major republican candidates except for Trump.

Quinnipiac and NBC/WSJ came out yesterday with some head to head polls.

Quinnipiac

Clinton beats Trump by 3 but losses to Carson by 10, Rubio by 5, Cruz by 3 and Christie by 5.

Sanders beats Trump by 2 but losses to Carson by 12, Rubio by 6, Cruz by 1 and Christie by 3.

NBC/WSJ

Clinton beats Trump by 8, Rubio by 3 and Bush by 4 but ties Carson.

Sanders beats Trump by 9 and Rubio by 5.
 
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