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Joe Bagadonuts said:
They figured out that if he had said what they are claiming he said that it would have been a lie. He's pretty much toast.
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yeah the irony.
when accusing someone of lying the truth and facts don't matter anymore.

stocked you now got **** on your face. you did not only step on it. you proceeded to put your face in the pile of ****
 
Obamas book was filled with more fiction and talked about cocaine and marijuana.
the mainstream liberal media loved it.

but because ben carsons bookmain theme is john 3:16, the liberal media hates it. and then they hunted in the books for "inaccuracies".

hypocrites i tell ya
 
Several news sites are being extremely critical of the Politico piece on ben Carson and West Point.

Basically they are saying Politico straight up lied about it. Interesting.
 
Stoked said:
Several news sites are being extremely critical of the Politico piece on ben Carson and West Point.

Basically they are saying Politico straight up lied about it. Interesting.
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thats what i been saying from beginning. at first they ragged on ben, ben attacjked them. the public attacked media so now they are screwed.
 
btw this blatant attack by the liberal leftist media only strengthens ben carson, their was a spike in his donations after this piece by democratico i mean politico

only ******* trust the liberal left media.
only "sheeples" trust the media, and fall for their propaganda
 
and you know what sickens me!

democratico made a mistake, certain people will stand by what democratico said, even after the truth came out there are people still standing by democratico's story.
democratico does not have comon decency to run a huge add on their frontage saying guess what we where wrong. no they just edited(and deleted?) the original story.
they damaged ben carson to the left, so it will be harder to get "swing votes"
just stroll on twitter and u see lots of "ben carson lied" memes, people who are sheeple and stupid will believe the democratico story and this in cause led ben carson to lose some swing votes.


democratico is disgusting :P



they do not deserve to be called politico as they are clearly left leaning.
 
colton said:
True story: I had a dream last night that I was part of the next Republican debate. Apparently the debate was in my town (not sure where that was in dream-land, probably not Orem), in a high school that had a gym like an LDS "cultural hall", i.e. with a stage to the side. I and a couple of my friends decided to declare for the Republican nomination on the spot and somehow were offered spots on the stage. Or maybe just I was offered a spot and my friends weren't. We probably decided to declare because of a general dissatisfaction of the Republican candidates (Rubio wasn't there). There weren't any chairs, though, the candidates just had to sit on the edge of the stage with their legs hanging off into the gym area. I was seated right next to Trump.

I wasn't getting much screen time until Trump started attacking me (don't know for what). He turned to me and started poking and prodding me with his finger. I let it pass a couple of times (guess my nature is like Hayward and the wet willy), but then got fed up and said something like "Listen, Mr. Trump. I've had enough. If you touch me one more time I will push you off this stage and you will land on the gym floor." Trump apparently took my threat seriously, and didn't touch me again the rest of the debate.

Later, towards the end of the debate, the moderator asked me a question, but I didn't quite catch the topic. So I did what politicians always do and answered a different question instead. I said, "Well, before I answer that question, let me point out what just happened here earlier in the debate. I gave Mr. Trump a clear ultimatum. I drew a line in the sand, stated what my position was, and because Mr. Trump believed me, he took my statement seriously. This is exactly how I will run my foreign policy. I will state America's positions clearly, I will maintain 100% honesty with the other world leaders, and if they press me, I will indeed follow through with what I have promised the ramifications will be." I continued, "Likewise, I will maintain 100% honesty in my domestic affairs. I will strive to work with leaders of BOTH parties, and because they too will trust me to keep my word when I tell them how I feel and want I want to accomplish, they will be willing to work with me as well. Together we will find ways to make this country even better, ways that will benefit the ENTIRE country, not just those on one side or the other." That got an ovation from the audience.

I went on like that a bit more, and then time was up for the debate. (Good thing, too, because I never did find out what the question was that I was supposed to be answering.) When the polls came out, I was tied with Trump as winner of the debate, something like 30% each, and my threat to push Trump off the stage was universally seen as the highlight of the debate.

Pretty awesome dream. I don't usually have ones that are that vivid.

Moral of the story: apparently I'm fed up with most of the Republican field, and with honesty of politicians in general. And it seems very possible that starting to use a CPAP for sleep apnea can make you have weird dreams.
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Seriously, nobody liked my "threaten to push Trump off the stage" dream?
 
I came back to this thread after a few days. I have to say that the response here from Dutch and Joe is simply surreal.

To honestly claim that Carson's book is coming out looking like it had no fabrications is bizarre. The current politico lead on that is as follows:

Editor’s note: POLITICO stands by its reporting on this story, which has been updated to reflect Ben Carson’s on the record response. The original story and headline said that Carson’s campaign had admitted he "fabricated" a "full scholarship" from West Point, but now Carson denies that his campaign’s statement constituted such an admission, and the story and headline were changed to reflect that. POLITICO’s reporting established that Carson said he received a "full scholarship" from West Point, in writing and in public appearances over the years — but in fact he did not and there is actually no such thing as a "full scholarship" to the taxpayer-funded academy. And today in response to POLITICO he acknowledged for the first time that was not the case. Carson never explicitly wrote that he had applied for admission to West Point, although that was the clear implication of his claim to have received an offer of a "full scholarship," a point that POLITICO’s initial report should have made clear.
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As the New York times noted, Ben Carson has said he received a full scholarship multiple times during his public appearances in the following years. Additionally, his other books make the claim of a scholarship more specifically clear.


In a later book, “You Have a Brain,” he described how he had decided which college to attend: “I still had the scholarship offer from West Point as a result of my R.O.T.C. achievements,” he wrote.
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I'm not certain it is really debatable that he's made that claim, or that it is untrue. As a result, the most charitable read is that he was mistaken. If that's the case, he should just say so.

The following few days have poked all kinds of holes in the Carson biography, he appears to have bizarrely fabricated a story about a psychology test that, paradoxially, was supposed to demonstrate how fundamentally honest he was. Further, it appears that the famous "pulled a knife" story is probably untrue. Also, there appears to be no way to verify his story about shielding white students during a race riot. Which is strange since presumably those students would remember that it happened.

I don't really care if he lied, I just enjoy the circus. But I'm surprised at all the gymnastics that Dutch and Joe are doing to apparently purposely close their ears to things that should be troubling to people who are beating the "lies" drum so hard re: Hillary.
 
Also, I 100% want to buy this book:

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EDIT: My wife has the best answer for how to account for the stabbing story.

The Madame said:
Important note: his memoir claims he stabbed "Bob" "with all the force of my young muscles" - maybe the reason no one recalls the stabbng is that he didn't use a knife? (I'm saying he banged Bob)
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There's a reason I married her.
 
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