GOP Debate Threads

[DutchJazzer]

The highest earners in America pay an effective tax rate of 27% on income. Sales tax and other tax can be deducted from your income tax rate. There are also plenty 8 other deductions.

For example. Mitt Romney pays about 15 % income tax despite making tons and tons of money.

Us tax rate is pretty lenient. If you are actually paying the tax rate for high income earners, you are not paying the right people to watch your money.

than thats why the taxcode needs to be reduced to 3 pages.

i'm out!

 

[DutchJazzer]

Unemployment benefits in the United states stop after a certain time frame. They are not tax money. They are unemployment insurance. Big difference.

YES I KNOW because guess what bernie saunders is not president

but he wants to change it to socialism, right? and THAT is what will happen. talking about socialism being like rape!
not americas CURRENT system. because america is not yet socialist, they are moving towards it with obama and will even further with BERNIE!


edit: free college! where does the money come from? YOUR TAX DOLLARS!

 

[sirkickyass]

Dutch, in addition to doubling down on claiming that he's been "raped" by taxes, appears to have a serious misunderstanding about the difference between marginal and effective tax rates.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Dutch, in addition to doubling down on claiming that he's been "raped" by taxes, appears to have a serious misunderstanding about the difference between marginal and effective tax rates.

tax is tax at the end of the day the government gets your money one way or the other!

 

[One Brow]

A recent and blatant example is Benghazi. She repeatedly told the American public and the families of the victims that the attack on the US Embassy was the result of a spontaneous demonstration resulting from anger over a video that had been posted on the internet. At that same time she sent emails to her daughter and to leaders of at least two other countries saying that she was aware (as was everyone with any knowledge of the event) that it was not a spontaneous attack at all. It was a planned terrorist attack and it had nothing whatsoever to do with the video that she was blaming it on.

The intelligence went back and forth on this. Currently, it seems it was a planned attack motivated in part by the video.

This highlights another of her many lies because the emails referenced above came from an account she was illegally using to circumvent government oversight requirements.

Please provide evidence that Clinton was using this server as a deliberate attempt to circumvent government oversight requirements.

Once discovered she claimed that the server was for personal use only, then attempted to delete tens of thousands of emails before turning the information over to the investigators.

Please provide evidence that Clinton attempted to delete non-personal emails.

Unfortunately for her, technicians have successfully recovered thousands of deleted emails that prove that she was using the private account for exactly the things that she claimed she hadn't been doing, including communicating top secret US government information.

Great. Name one email that fits this profile.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Your country has been(and will continue with the next administration) to push a pipeline to refine the least energy efficient oil reserves left on the planet. Potus just shut it down. Damn environment hating right wing Canadians.

We just wrapped up 9 years of conservative rule. Let's hope Trudeau's liberals are more eco-conscious

 

[colton]

Dutch, in addition to doubling down on claiming that he's been "raped" by taxes, appears to have a serious misunderstanding about the difference between marginal and effective tax rates.

I was going to make a similar comment. Dutch, I'm pretty sure all the rates you are quoting are the MARGINAL rates. The actual tax rates will be less than that. If you are unfamiliar with the term marginal tax rate, please take a couple of minutes to read about it.

 

[DutchJazzer]

The intelligence went back and forth on this. Currently, it seems it was a planned attack motivated in part by the video.



Please provide evidence that Clinton was using this server as a deliberate attempt to circumvent government oversight requirements.



Please provide evidence that Clinton attempted to delete non-personal emails.



Great. Name one email that fits this profile.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

 

[DutchJazzer]

I was going to make a similar comment. Dutch, I'm pretty sure all the rates you are quoting are the MARGINAL rates. The actual tax rates will be less than that. If you are unfamiliar with the term marginal tax rate, please take a couple of minutes to read about it.

wetehr it is 50% or 60% my point still stands!
when bernie becomes president he will give away free stuff and the money has to come from somewhere

 

[DutchJazzer]

after they failed to take carson down.
tyr try try again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG3_T6JNZs0

wtf is up with mainstream media.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

The intelligence went back and forth on this. Currently, it seems it was a planned attack motivated in part by the video.



Please provide evidence that Clinton was using this server as a deliberate attempt to circumvent government oversight requirements.



Please provide evidence that Clinton attempted to delete non-personal emails.



Great. Name one email that fits this profile.

Whether or not the attack was motivated by the video is irrelevant. The important part of the difference between the story that Clinton told the victim's families and the American public was whether or not it was a planned attack. The facts are that we know without question that it was planned. We also know that the ambassador requested military support and that aircraft were initially deployed but then told to stand down by the Hillary led State Department. Consequently our ambassador and his people were left to fend for themselves and eventually die at the hands of what clearly was not a spontaneous attack that we could do nothing about.

There are plenty of articles available about all the aspects of this debacle if you want to learn. Here are some examples from mainstream sources:
https://www.cnn.com/2015/03/27/politics/hillary-clinton-personal-email-server/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-fbi-pulls-deleted-emails-from-hillary-clintons-server/
https://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015...s-email-to-chelsea-stars-in-benghazi-hearing/

There is even more damning information from right wing sources which I will not bother showing you because I know you would discount them. If, like the majority of liberals, you believe that the mainstream media is centrist, I assume you will accept what the articles I've provided say. I believe the mainstream media has a horse in this race, and that is that they want to protect Hillary, so in my view it is quite remarkable that they are gradually being forced to corroborate the story that the right wing sources have documented for quite some time now.

BTW, I'm sure that if a conservative politician was ordered to turn over documents but responded by instead deleting them, asserting that they had the right to determine what was personal and what was not, you would be perfectly fine with that, right? The bottom line is that you are attempting to take a stance that many people already believe is impossible to support, and which I believe that you (if you have a shred of intellectual honesty) will soon have to abandon as well.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

after they failed to take carson down.
tyr try try again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG3_T6JNZs0

wtf is up with mainstream media.

If conservative candidates had refused to answer this question can you imagine the left wing firestorm that would have ensued. So they answer it and what happens, the left wingers go nuts saying that it was completely irresponsible of these candidates to answer this question. Their agenda is so transparent. The only way anybody can believe these people are unbiased commentators is to completely ignore what's going on.