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Gordon Hayward: Pull Up/Drive Weekly Update

akirac73 said:
Miami is a ultra poor example to prove your point...We all know how that team was constructed, 3 #1's from different teams put together. Let's not be silly here...Hayward is not in the same stratosphere as a D-wade or Bosh in terms of NBA worth.
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Here's another example of someone grossly overrating Bosh. I have been a huge Hayward fan, but I have to admit he isn't progressing as quick as I thought he would. I still think he can get there, but he currently isn't someone that can continually get you a basket when you need it. I give him a value of 8 mil/year at this point and the reason it's that low is because contract money is coming down because it has to. The very top players (15-30) will command huge dollars, but the salary cap limitations combined with the economy will start to have a very real effect. Hayward is good at everything, and he is smart, but he should have taken the 10 mil if it was ever offered.
 
i am excited to see how he progresses (for better or worse).

i would also be interested to see what burks' (who seems to drive every time he gets the ball) numbers are in this regard as well.

good on ya.
 
Best thread in a long time.

It's hard to figure Hayward's actual contribution on offense so King GVC is going to do it for us the hard way.
 
Special shout-out for Hayward draining a pull-up behind the three-point line to tie the game with <10 seconds left.
 
dalamon said:
Special shout-out for Hayward draining a pull-up behind the three-point line to tie the game with <10 seconds left.
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That was great to see. Was it just a lucky shot or something Hayward actually added to his arsenal?..I guess we'll find out this season.
 
I love the thread idea, and would appreciate updates on it.

I am also curious how these statistics move or solidify as the team gels more and as more games are played, and then again as Burke gets back into the rotation.

I am also interested in seeing those numbers for Burks, as well as how they stack up to the rest of the league, as to what is high, what is average, and what is low... so I appreciate the links.
 
GVC said:
A "Drive" is defined as "Any touch that starts at least 20 feet of the hoop and is dribbled within 10 feet of the hoop and excludes fast breaks. Measures the total number of drives as well as the points, assists and shooting percentages on drives to the basket." Included in these stats is the player's drives per game and points per game on drives (which includes free throws), as well as the team points per game on the player's drives. I'll post Gordo's weekly # of drives, own and team points from Gordo drives, and team points per Gordo drive.

A "Pull Up" is defined as "Any jump shot outside 10 feet where a player took 1 or more dribbles before shooting." It looks as though free throws aren't included in these stats. I'll post Gordo's attempts (2- and 3-pointers), field goal percentages and overall points per Pull Up.
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Are Hockey Assists included then? Hayward is 9th in the league so far with 2.0 per game.

I'd also like to see the "Kobe Assist" added (drawing the entire defense and missing a shot that's easily cleaned up for a putback 2), but I'm guessing it's not.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Where are these found?
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https://stats.nba.com/playerTrackingPassing.html?pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25

Hockey assist is listed as "Secondary Assists per game".

Kobe Assist (Kirk Goldsberry of courtvisionanalytics.com) would have to be included in the definition of when a drive ends. I haven't found anyone releasing their data and doubt it's included in GVC's #'s even though it's a very important part of offense building. We'd probably have to count Kobe Assists and team offensive rebounding rate the long way and add them in somehow.
 
GVC said:
The NBA is already providing some of the stats from the newly installed SportVU cameras (2 useful links: 1 and 2). Included in these stats are drives and pull up jumper stats. Since Gordo is going to be depended on with the ball in his hands this season, these stats will give us an indication of just how well he's performing off the bounce. I'll use this thread to update his stats once per week (hopefully).
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Doesn't the info in link 2 justify Sloan's overly aggressive help defense that left the three open more than usual? It's funny how the more analytics catches up to Sabermetrics the more they're finding out that coaches already knew most this stuff.
 
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