Griffin PIGS get slaughtered in LA tonight

[Julie Greengiant]

? really

one pf their best.
he is not even the 3rd best big

I guess you could make that argument but it wouldn't be a very good one.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

If you swap Al for Lebron, this team easily wins 50 games, and possibly 60.

I don't think Lebron wins 50 or 60 with Tinsley, Foye and Marvin. I think he demands a trade.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Then why did his minutes not drop, and Kanter's rise, when Kanter is CLEARLY playing better?

Because that is just not how the NBA works most of the time. I'm sure it has something to do with agents and keeping their relationships with small-market franchises at the mercy of everything good, in addition to trying to get a return on your investment in addition to not wanting to look like an organization in some kind of distress.

I also wouldn't say Kanter is CLEARLY better. Kanter is still pretty inconsistent (which I think time will iron out, but it's not there, or not yet anyway).

 

[NUMBERICA]

I don't think Lebron wins 50 or 60 with Tinsley, Foye and Marvin. I think he demands a trade.

Like he did in Cleveland.

 

[green]

I don't think Lebron wins 50 or 60 with Tinsley, Foye and Marvin. I think he demands a trade.

He made it to the NBA finals with that team:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NBA_Finals

His "sidekicks" were Ilguaskas and Donyell Marshall.

 

[Game6Conley]

Then why did his minutes not drop, and Kanter's rise, when Kanter is CLEARLY playing better?

you wont bless my ignorance with your genius, infallible logic? you've decided to ignore me instead?

Silence is the mother of truth. - Benjamin Disraeli

 

[fgcamel]

I'm looking at the play-by-play at the beginning of the 3rd quarter....

The Jazz didn't score a bucket in the first 4 minutes of the quarter until Al scored a lay-up at 8:07.
Al missed 2 shots.
Sap missed 2 shots.
Marvin and Foye each missed a 3-pt shot.

Meanwhile, the Clippers only missed 2 shots, shooting 4/6 from the field, and both times they missed Griffin got the offensive rebound.
The Clippers also drew 3 shooting fouls, 2 by Griffin and 1 by Butler.
Griffin scored 10 points in less than 4 minutes.
Butler scored another 4 points.

The Clippers outscored the Jazz 14 - 0 in the first 4 minutes of the 3rd quarter.

Not to pick on anyone in particular, but it looks to me like Millsap got his a$$ handed to him by Griffin.
Griffin scores 10 points, grabs 2 offensive boards (the Clips' only 2 misses), and draws 2 fouls on Sap for And-1 plays in just 4 minutes.

Favors comes in for Millsap.

i really liked the defence kanter was playing on griffin (even though i've come to expect it). although griffin wasn't looking quite as aggressive at that stage.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

For the record, I like Tinsley. He can be useful, but he shouldn't ever try to guard a good player, and he shouldn't be forced to shoulder such a load. I honestly might prefer him to Mo in all honesty (I know that's nuts).

That said, the Jazz need to just play their best players, and conventional wisdom says your best guards are Mo, Burks, Foye, and Hayward (who is also a forward). Tinsley in a pinch is wonderful, Tinsley as a backup is probably okay in a vacuum as well, but you cannot justify him or Earl playing over Burks. Similarly, Marvin Williams is lucky to get on the floor at all, let alone ahead of anyone that actually tries and can produce at all.

It's a sad statement, but Tinsley is still the best pure PG on the team. He can actually direct an offense.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I'm looking at the play-by-play at the beginning of the 3rd quarter....

The Jazz didn't score a bucket in the first 4 minutes of the quarter until Al scored a lay-up at 8:07.
Al missed 2 shots.
Sap missed 2 shots.
Marvin and Foye each missed a 3-pt shot.

Meanwhile, the Clippers only missed 2 shots, shooting 4/6 from the field, and both times they missed Griffin got the offensive rebound.
The Clippers also drew 3 shooting fouls, 2 by Griffin and 1 by Butler.
Griffin scored 10 points in less than 4 minutes.
Butler scored another 4 points.

The Clippers outscored the Jazz 14 - 0 in the first 4 minutes of the 3rd quarter.

Not to pick on anyone in particular, but it looks to me like Millsap got his a$$ handed to him by Griffin.
Griffin scores 10 points, grabs 2 offensive boards (the Clips' only 2 misses), and draws 2 fouls on Sap for And-1 plays in just 4 minutes.

Favors comes in for Millsap.

And Griffin got his *** ****ed by Millsap in the first half. But go on ahead.

 

[Game6Conley]

Foye and Marvin were on the Cavs... ?

 

[NUMBERICA]

It's a sad statement, but Tinsley is still the best pure PG on the team. He can actually direct an offense.

I'm pretty sure he's the only one. Watson just looks like a spazz that makes some magic happen at random times (usually at home).

 

[infection]

Why are we arguing between Al being bad for the team or the starting lineup being terrible? These are not mutually exclusive. We have a coach that's enabling all of the above and a front office that's apparently okay with it.