Has Hayward played his last game in a Jazz Uniform ?

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I don't quite get the Jazz waiting for another team to make an offer, versus making a strong offer to just get it done. It seems like this strategy backfired with Wesley Matthews and almost backfired with Millsap.

Jazz didn't have money to spend back then. We do now though. If we had this kind of cap space back then Wes would still be on the team.


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[gregbroncs]

Jazz didn't have money to spend back then. We do now though. If we had this kind of cap space back then Wes would still be on the team.


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This and he was still pretty unproven. And that was a big contract for an undrafted player after one season.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Even then, stories came out that Matthews came into the negotiation saying he wanted a mid level deal. That was the max the Jazz could offer, so they said go find one and he did.

Probably similar situation here.

 

[gomretat]

I don't quite get the Jazz waiting for another team to make an offer, versus making a strong offer to just get it done. It seems like this strategy backfired with Wesley Matthews and almost backfired with Millsap.

According to multiple sources including Randy R the Jazz are actively negotiating with him and are not waiting for what other teams offer.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

I don't quite get the Jazz waiting for another team to make an offer, versus making a strong offer to just get it done. It seems like this strategy backfired with Wesley Matthews and almost backfired with Millsap.

Supposedly Hayward was offered Derrick Favors money last season. He turned it down. tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if thats the largest deal he gets offered.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

Even then, stories came out that Matthews came into the negotiation saying he wanted a mid level deal. That was the max the Jazz could offer, so they said go find one and he did.

Probably similar situation here.

The difference here is the Jazz are in contact and negotiating. Hopefully, this will help avoid a poison pill like the Matthews and Millsap deals. KOC was a little too disconnected when it came to free agency. He let Portland **** him twice.

 

[gregbroncs]

The difference here is the Jazz are in contact and negotiating. Hopefully, this will help avoid a poison pill like the Matthews and Millsap deals. KOC was a little too disconnected when it came to free agency. He let Portland **** him twice.

Honestly we should be hoping for a poison pill scenario. We have more cap room now than we need and more players to sign later. The more money up front the better in this case.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

Honestly we should be hoping for a poison pill scenario. We have more cap room now than we need and more players to sign later. The more money up front the better in this case.

That wouldn't be a poison pill. A back loaded offer would be.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I don't quite get the Jazz waiting for another team to make an offer, versus making a strong offer to just get it done. It seems like this strategy backfired with Wesley Matthews and almost backfired with Millsap.

I think they probably DID make a strong offer, perhaps even an increase over last summer's deal. But it takes two to get the deal done. If Gordon's agent is telling him there are teams out there willing to pay him the MAX, why would he sign for $15M cheaper with Utah (or $10M or $5M)?

 

[jazzrule]

for some reason, i think mj might give him max.

Well done well done. MJ is crazy though.

 

[addictionary]

Well done well done. MJ is crazy though.

Yeah good work dong2ha. And MJ is crazy, crazyloaded alright.

 

[Getting Traded]

What does money mean to MJ. He's a billionaire.