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If I were Putin, why would I invade Ukraine while a president Trump was bashing NATO, weakening NATO merely by bad mouthing it, and threatening to abandon our membership in NATO? Not everyday Putin is going to have such an ally in the White House. Let Trump weaken it from within, it’s too good to be true. Don’t screw that up by attacking Ukraine just at that point. It would also not surprise me if, during meeting(s) where Trump met Putin without an American translator that Putin described, “strongman to strongman”, the only equation Trump respects and yearned for himself, what Ukraine meant to him, and how little it should mean to the United States.
John Boehner once said, “never shoot your opponent when he’s trying to commit suicide.”

Putin didn’t need to invade Ukraine with Trump trashing it and weakening NATO. Bolton believes Trump would’ve left NATO in a 2nd term. So why invade in the 1st term if you can wait for Trump to do your dirty work for you?


And when you think about it, Putin just needs to wait for Republicans to retake congress later this year. We won’t be passing additional military aid once Speaker Jordan or MTG takes the gavel. If Putin can hold out until 2025 when/if Trump retakes office and gets rid of sanctions? He’ll easily be able to retake the baltics.
 
Trump is a unique threat to our constitutional order. This is not just a policy disagreement. He’s made it clear that he wants to detach laws and bend the federal order to his will. He’s a wannabe dictator.

So for me, voters can bitch about Biden. But anyone who cares about having a democracy 4 years down the road, 40, or 400 need to vote against Trump and for whoever the Democratic candidate will be in 2024. Otherwise, we’re electing someone to destroy our democracy.

I will definitely vote for whoever isnt trump. I really hope it isnt biden though.


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I'd like to see info on who came out to vote in 2020. I think with Trump in the race again you get a lot of voters invested in beating him because he invokes such complete disgust in a majority of this country, EC be damned.

If Trump runs and makes it out of the primary the democrats have to have someone that the people who hate hate hate Trump can get at least a little bit excited about. Biden isn't it, not in 2024. The whole Biden is a senile old man thing has traction because, well, Biden isn't spry or witty or charming at this point. He's gonna take massive blame for inflation that was set into motion well before he was elected. Apparently Putin starting an ill-advised, floundering war in Ukraine is because (pardon me while I try to type this without laughing) Trump was keeping Putin in check (apparently by giving him so many BJs that Putin didn't have time for anything else but BJs from Trump). Regardless, Biden is going to be a weaker candidate in 2024, even though incumbents typically have a very strong advantage. This new line about Biden being some sort of war-hawk or Democrats wanting Russian blood is absurd and I don't think many outside of Trump fart sniffers are buying it.

And for the ****ing record, I said before specific sanctions were announced that I DO NOT SUPPORT SANCTIONS. For one, sanctions are an act of war, so if you want to engage in war do it with a modicum of honor and dignity. Don't do it by starving out the most vulnerable people in a society, which is what sanctions do. Sanctions also have a **** track record for stopping bad behavior, which we are seeing right now as the war in Ukraine continues. I do not have ill will towards the Russian people. Putin is the problem, 100%. Putin didn't do this for justifiable reasons or because the U.S. was bad. Putin is doing this because he believes that Ukraine is part of Russia, a very fundamental part of Russia.
Agreed.

I still like the idea of incentivizing the Russian military to defect. I think that is an under-rated idea.
 
I don't recall Tara Reade's story being "debunked". It's an outlier from the creepy-but-not-assault-stuff Biden has been doing, so unconfirmed.
Her story had more holes in it than Swiss cheese and she changed it more times than I can remember. And she just so brought it up in the 2020 election when Russia needed Trump to win. Suspicious to say the least
 
Lol dumbest thread in history right outside of Thrillers Walker Kessler should be benched thread. I won't let you forget you owe me $100. As usual I school you and you disappear knowing it'll go away.


It wasn't debunked btw. Her story dates back to when it actually happened and there is actual conversations about it at the time.
 
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Notice how she injects Russian propaganda here. She refers to the vague “warmongers” as if Zelenskyy who’s defending his country from invasion is the same as Putin who has led the invasion. By refusing to call out Russian aggression, she’s “both sidesing” the war. Now Ukraine is seemingly at fault for refusing to lay down and let Putin rape her.

Once again, we see that Hillary Clinton and those of us in the left were right. But, she was Hillary and we were called alarmists. Just as Kamala was quickly dismissed (brown woman) and those of us calling Donald a fascist were dismissed.

 
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