Hood traded to Cleveland for Crowder; Johnson to Sacramento

[Et tu Brute]

I too spent 90 minutes re reading this thread well after it occurred. (Did it between bathing and feeding my newborn twins

I must have handed out about 100 likes (maybe more).

Great read....

 

[fishonjazz]

For the type of shots Hood takes this is great efficiency.

Does that mean his shot selection is poor and kind of chuckerish?

 

[Hekate]

Does that mean his shot selection is poor and kind of chuckerish?

No, it means our offense forced Hood into those shots.

 

[stitches]

Does that mean his shot selection is poor and kind of chuckerish?

Does he take some shots he shouldn't take? Sure. But a lot of them are within the offense or after the offense has broken down and he needs to bail us out. I've never thought of Hood "damn what a chucker" when I watch him. He takes shots somewhat liberally but that's mainly because we needed him to do it. There have been multiple cases where Quin has actually castigated him for not shooting, rather than shooting a bad shot.

 

[fishonjazz]

No, it means our offense forced Hood into those shots.

Eh, I saw many times where he didn’t have to take a tough/bad shot and did anyway. Missed open teammates a lot.
And when hood is out someone still always has to take shots at the end of shot clocks and that are guarded closely as well.

Our record without hood? 10-5.

 

[Hekate]

Eh, I saw many times where he didn’t have to take a tough/bad shot and did anyway. Missed open teammates a lot.
And when hood is out someone still always has to take shots at the end of shot clocks and that are guarded closely as well.

Our record without hood? 10-5.

You have a very selective memory then.

While Hood wasn't perfect for us, he was our second best option to create something and he played most of his minutes without Mitchell. And yeah, someone will have to take those shots and they will be less effective than Hood.

We also got hot without Hood. We could have got hot with him too.

 

[hgb]

I guess the number one question now is who is going to create when Donovan and Ricky sits, but perhaps they won't sit too much at the same time.

 

[framer]

I am starting to worry the Jazz FO see Exum as a 2.... Is this really what people think his best position will be? Could he evolve into a 'small' 3?

When he played with Mitchell in the summer league they looked pretty interchangeable and positionless. I would imagine that Exum would take the harder defensive assignment out of the 1 and 2. When playing with Rubio, he would be an off-ball 2 and defend the 2. Otherwise he just runs the point. Neto and Burks going to get their minutes crunched.

 

[framer]

You have a very selective memory then.

While Hood wasn't perfect for us, he was our second best option to create something and he played most of his minutes without Mitchell. And yeah, someone will have to take those shots and they will be less effective than Hood.

We also got hot without Hood. We could have got hot with him too.

When Hood was available to take those shots. One of the biggest issues the Jazz have had is injuries. Hood sitting out two weeks with "contusions" was not helpful at all.

 

[LoPo]

Good morning guys. Fellas, I am so glad this trade deadline is over.

My final analysis of the trade comes down so one point and one question:

The Point - we have played at every level this year. We have shown we can play with anybody and as poorly as anybody. Essentially, the trade yesterday replaces Hood and JoeJ' productions with Crowder and Exum's. I haven't seen many talk about Exum. Considering how well we played during this streak without Hood and with old Joe, I am very optimistic about adding Exum and Crowder as weapons on both ends of the court.

The Question - what is the impact of the battle for starting PF? In my opinion, Crowder should start at PF while Gobert plays a little less. He played 38 minutes against Memphis. That is unwise usage. If Favors starts, how does Crowder handle it? If Quin can manage this well, we are so incredibly balanced in the 1st and 2nd unit. If Quin or the players don't handle it well, this can become an unfortunate distraction.

Overall, I give the trade a high B but give the deadline a D. Too bad we couldn't send Burks and our 2nd to the Kings in place of Joe (we would have just bought him out). If we could have gotten value without a contract for Favors, we might should have to avoid an issue with our PF thing.

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[framer]

I guess the number one question now is who is going to create when Donovan and Ricky sits, but perhaps they won't sit too much at the same time.

 

[hgb]

I'm glad we hung on to Favors, personally. He's key to getting to the playoffs, and I think he might resign as well, but even if he doesn',t I like it.
As for starting, I strongly doubt Crowder starts, but I think we might do something like we've played a bit recently where Derrick goes out early, after 4-5-6 minutes, Crowder in, then Gobert out and Favors in after 8 minutes or so. Who finishes I suppose will depend a lot on who we play, but I go agree that Crowder should take some minutes from Rudy. 38 is too much for a 7 footer.

 

[Hekate]

When Hood was available to take those shots. One of the biggest issues the Jazz have had is injuries. Hood sitting out two weeks with "contusions" was not helpful at all.

Yeah, they weren't. I understand why trade had to be done.

 

[hgb]

Yeah, that would be great. I'm a huge Exum fan.

 

[framer]

I too spent 90 minutes re reading this thread well after it occurred. (Did it between bathing and feeding my newborn twins

I must have handed out about 100 likes (maybe more).

Great read....

He dead!

 

[fishonjazz]

You have a very selective memory then.

While Hood wasn't perfect for us, he was our second best option to create something and he played most of his minutes without Mitchell. And yeah, someone will have to take those shots and they will be less effective than Hood.

We also got hot without Hood. We could have got hot with him too.

Why do you assume they will be less effective than hood?
Couldnt we move the ball better and run the offense better and get better and more efficient shots without him?
Is that not a possibility? If not, then this was a very strange trade indeed and DL must be a dummy

 

[latin jazz]

I am so glad this trade deadline is over.

Really? You are?. Be honest with me son, you were having fun with the trade machine

 

[Hekate]

Why do you assume they will be less effective than hood?
Couldnt we move the ball better and run the offense better and get better and more efficient shots without him?
Is that not a possibility? If not, then this was a very strange trade indeed and DL must be a dummy

Hood didn't play out of the system and he was our best creator outside of Mitchell. He had to take those shots because he was our best option at the time. They will be less effective because they are less versatile and talented offensively than Hood.


DL isn't a dummy because Hood wanted out, had injuries and would be paid this offseason.

 

[fishonjazz]

Hood didn't play out of the system and he was our best creator outside of Mitchell. He had to take those shots because he was our best option at the time. They will be less effective because they are less versatile and talented offensively than Hood.


DL isn't a dummy because Hood wanted out, had injuries and would be paid this offseason.

I think we will be fine without hood. We will get better shots and be more efficient.

Also, this notion that more usage means than that efficiency automatically would be worse, therefore mediocre efficiency is actually great due to type of shots taken isn't always true.
Some players efficiency go up when they are asked to do more. They prefer having the ball in their hands and when they have a bigger role.
Last year hoods role was smaller and he was asked to do less and create less and his efficiency was worse.
Rubio seems to be more efficient when having the ball more and asked to do more offensively
Burks most efficient year was when he was getting lots of minutes, lots of touches and being asked to do more in the offense.

Some guys are less efficient when they just stand on the three point line waiting for a pass for an open shot. So the notion that a players efficiency would improve if asked to do less and get more assisted shot attempts isn't always true.
Maybe royce will improve if he is used more like hood was and be more efficient at the role hood was in. We don't know yet. We will soon find out though. I'm optimistic.

 

[candrew]

Our record without hood? 10-5.

And 9 of those wins were against teams with winning records.

I like Hood - I've always been a sucker for players who can fill it up on every given night. But the negatives are glaring.

He seems to have two modes: 100% healthy or injured/not playing.
He can't get to the line with any regularity so unless he's hitting his jumper he can become a liability.
Mediocre defender (although not as horrible as some folks are making him out to be)
Gets shut down by good defense unless he's hitting lights out.
And, the worst part, doesn't play well with DM. And this is going to be DM's team.

Collectively, all of the above makes you around a 10-12 mil a year guy. And I'm certain Hood would have demanded more as an RFA.

This is a solid win for DL. Not a grand slam; but at least a ground rule double, lol.