I think we need to shake up the roster...

[infection]

They have certainly fallen apart in the last two seasons. I think they exceeded expectations originally and have been below for the last two years. Although I think its fair to say health has been an issue the last two years in a major way. But even not healthy they definitely should have still won against Denver and probably still against Clippers. Game 6 meltdown might be one of the worst meltdowns of all time in the playoffs and I think a lot of that was on Snyder.

But I also watch sports for fun and it doesnt really effect my life when the team loses. So I tend to be optimistic because it seems silly to be the other way to me personally when it comes to watching a game for entertainment. But I understand some people are different.

See, this is the problem. You use the junk on the weekend or at a party with friends to enhance the experience. You’ve got your job and your responsibilities, and we see you in that suit walking the streets all sober while we’re face down in the gutter. We need to bring you down a few notches to our level.

 

[Ron Mexico]

See, this is the problem. You use the junk on the weekend or at a party with friends to enhance the experience. You’ve got your job and your responsibilities, and we see you in that suit walking the streets all sober while we’re face down in the gutter. We need to bring you down a few notches to our level.

Sober and suits are two things you will have a hard time catching me in.

 

[Gameface]

 

[Agent#00]

I think Mike Conley need to take over. He need to control the game harder. Dm maybe the scoring leader but Mike is the game manager. Thats why hes here. We can't look lost with him in the lineup.

 

[LogGrad98]

I think Mike Conley need to take over. He need to control the game harder. Dm maybe the scoring leader but Mike is the game manager. Thats why hes here. We can't look lost with him in the lineup.

Conley is looking washed to me. He's been a step slower, his lateral movement is off, he doesn't seem as quick. Maybe it's just the general malaise the entire team seems to be under but I'm afraid his best days are behind him. It's one of the reasons I didn't want him in the first place. I knew we'd get maybe 2 solid seasons out of him, and we'd see a drop-off. And that sure looks to be true.

 

[str8line]

I think Mike Conley need to take over. He need to control the game harder. Dm maybe the scoring leader but Mike is the game manager. Thats why hes here. We can't look lost with him in the lineup.

Good point. Too much Donovan at PG. Conley need to CONTROL GAME HARDER.

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[str8line]

Conley is looking washed to me. He's been a step slower, his lateral movement is off, he doesn't seem as quick. Maybe it's just the general malaise the entire team seems to be under but I'm afraid his best days are behind him. It's one of the reasons I didn't want him in the first place. I knew we'd get maybe 2 solid seasons out of him, and we'd see a drop-off. And that sure looks to be true.

Conley is a damn wizard. Wizards who lose half a step are still wizards, although Joe is at risk of losing his wizard status since he's lost almost a full step.

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[Handlogten's Heros]

Looking at lineup data... the starting lineup is not as dominant as they were last year... down about net 4 pts per 100. I also saw that the Rudy against bench guys lineup is not doing nearly as well. Down like 6-7 pts per 100. These are year over year comparisons. Both lineups still very positive.

I think a lot of it is bad shooting... the Rudy versus the bench guys lineup is turning it over a lot. I do wonder if Niang's spacing was that important. Maybe JC's **** shooting plus the Niang spacing being gone is leading that lineup to turn the ball over.

Its just weird that the three guys that were On-Off +- masters last year are now three of our lower guys (Rudy, Joe, Mike). Its also a testament to how good Whiteside has been for us. Probably need another 12 or so games to make something definitive out of what is going on.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think we need to see what Rudy Gay looks like as well. If he provides some of that floor spacing needed and can be the scorer off the bench then JC gets a little more expendable and maybe so does Bojan (because Paschall has also been solid). Some struggling teams may start to get more desperate and some teams may need to offload functional players to tank harder… OKC is the only team in that boat.

 

[KqWIN]

Looking at lineup data... the starting lineup is not as dominant as they were last year... down about net 4 pts per 100. I also saw that the Rudy against bench guys lineup is not doing nearly as well. Down like 6-7 pts per 100. These are year over year comparisons. Both lineups still very positive.

I think a lot of it is bad shooting... the Rudy versus the bench guys lineup is turning it over a lot. I do wonder if Niang's spacing was that important. Maybe JC's **** shooting plus the Niang spacing being gone is leading that lineup to turn the ball over.

Its just weird that the three guys that were On-Off +- masters last year are now three of our lower guys (Rudy, Joe, Mike). Its also a testament to how good Whiteside has been for us. Probably need another 12 or so games to make something definitive out of what is going on.

The bench lineup with everyone there has been fine, but still not as good as last year with Niang. We obviously don't have Gay yet, but I don't think we can expect that lineup to be as good as it was last year during the RS. Niang really was a perfect fit there and even if we expect Gay to be better in the playoffs it's hard to replicate that succes. The strange thing about that lineup is that it's had an abnormally high turnover rate. It's not really JC bringing it down. When I looked at it a week or so ago, it was mostly Rudy. We've also fallen apart whenever someone has been out. It's not like last year when Oni stepped in and things went amazing.

The starters just haven't been able to defend. I think that is being skewed by being completely whooped by MIA twice...I'm sure it will get back to normal when we play some bad teams. But it's important to remember that the Jazz are still #2 in offense despite the shooting issues. The Jazz shooting is way down, but shooting and offense is down all around the league. It's very much a defensive issue right now.

 

[LogGrad98]

I think we need to see what Rudy Gay looks like as well. If he provides some of that floor spacing needed and can be the scorer off the bench then JC gets a little more expendable and maybe so does Bojan (because Paschall has also been solid). Some struggling teams may start to get more desperate and some teams may need to offload functional players to tank harder… OKC is the only team in that boat.

This is what he looks like...

 

[NAOS]

This is what he looks like...

I think what he meant was something like "I need to see whether I'm a big Gay guy, or not."