I wonder if people realize...

[Nate505]

Rules, tips and facts for eating in a restaurant

1. Eat your food and get the **** out. If you are sitting around well after your meal you had better tip double or triple because if you're sitting there your server is existing not making any money on the next table. Don't be a dick.

2. If its really busy understand that your server might not be able to tickle your taint immediately. Have some patience for gods sake. If its slow, expect your beverage to be full and your plates to be cleared quickly.

3. If you make a ton of changes to your order and make the meal on the menu into something completely different expect it to get screwed up. The person cooking your food is going to be a moron. Make his life as easy as possible

4. If you're server is great tip them well and they'll take care of you in return. Free drinks and desserts etc ....

5. Women suck at tipping, large families ALMOST always suck at tipping, mormons generally suck at tipping, old people suck at tipping. If you fit in any of these demos expect to get **** service and blame your group as a whole and not the server.

I've got more. Maybe someday I'll enlighten you.

Somehow after reading this I feel more confident in my assertion that tipping as a salary is a sucky concept. Especially after #1. The only way turnover of tables should be an issue is if the restaurant is crowded.

 

[Gameface]

Somehow after reading this I feel more confident in my assertion that tipping as a salary is a sucky concept. Especially after #1. The only way turnover of tables should be an issue is if the restaurant is crowded.

You may not think very highly of the people who typically serve you, but if you had your way be prepared for wal-mart greeters to change careers to servers and the people who have experience as servers to look for other work that pays better.

 

[Nate505]

You may not think very highly of the people who typically serve you, but if you had your way be prepared for wal-mart greeters to change careers to servers and the people who have experience as servers to look for other work that pays better.

I think very highly of them (well not some of the ones at Casa Bonita, but I digress). I worked with many of them. I have no idea why good servers at good restaurants wouldn't make good money with a salary in place of the tip system. It works that way in every other industry on the planet. Typically experienced people who are good at their jobs and work for good companies make money. Lesser experienced people who work at crappy companies don't.

I think servers get screwed by the tip system, at least how it's constructed in the US. It's great for the owners, terrible for the servers. Because I think so highly of them I would prefer to see them get a salary instead of relying on tips. If the system was so great, there wouldn't be all sorts of impassioned pleas from servers and others begging people to tip. The reason there is because people who skip out on tips screw the servers over, but that wouldn't be the case if the customer didn't have direct control over the server's salary.

The other assertion I don't understand is why a restaurant owner would tolerate incompetent employees who are providing lousy service. One reason possibly is economic...you get what you pay for in many instances, and employment/skills are no different. But lousy service tends to be a death kneel of restaurants, so in theory the owner has a financial incentive to not let that happen.

 

[fishonjazz]

I honestly don't care how the service is when I go to a restaurant. I only care about how the food tastes.

 

[Beer]

Somehow after reading this I feel more confident in my assertion that tipping as a salary is a sucky concept. Especially after #1. The only way turnover of tables should be an issue is if the restaurant is crowded.

Tipping as a salary is odd, it can be very good for a server or it can really suck. But seriously, eat and GTFO. Unless its an empty restaurant, then do whatever you please.

 

[colton]

I honestly don't care how the service is when I go to a restaurant. I only care about how the food tastes.

You don't care how long it takes to get your meal? You don't care if you get the right order delivered to your table? You don't care if your server knows anything about the daily special? You don't care if you get presented the right bill? Those are all related to how the service is, and I've had all of those (and more) be issues at restaurants before.

 

[fishonjazz]

You don't care how long it takes to get your meal? You don't care if you get the right order delivered to your table? You don't care if your server knows anything about the daily special? You don't care if you get presented the right bill? Those are all related to how the service is, and I've had all of those (and more) be issues at restaurants before.

If I receive food and the food is good then I'm happy.
I'm pretty easy to please in most things in life though.

Food takes a little too long?..... It's all good most restaurants have sports on tv, I have a smart phone and I enjoy socializing with my fellow dinners.
They don't fill up my water fast enough?..... I will live.
They bring me the wrong item?..... Awesome, now I will likely get my food free!
They screw up on my bill?.... I tell them the problem and they correct the bill.

No big deal really.

If my food sucks then I'm not happy though

 

[Gameface]

I swear I got alerted to this thread for some reason. Now I'm not sure why.

Oh well, good thread. I read what I wrote about my mother and it made me remember how proud of her I always was. How much I loved her and how hard she worked for her family.

So whoever liked and then probably unliked my comment, thanks.

 

[Gameface]

This is random, but I bet a lot of people, even people who have lived in Utah their entire lives, don't realize this.

Tipped employees in Utah do not make minimum wage on top of their tips. They make $2.13/hr.

Not only that, but no matter how bad their actual tips might be, they get taxed as though they got at least 10% of their sales as tips.

They can report more than that, but they can't be taxed less than that.

I don't think a lot of people in Utah realize this fact. Still.

All tipped employees know Utah sucks.

If you frequent places where no alcoholic drinks are served and most of the customers are LDS, I'm guessing the servers average age is 15. Enjoy your service! You deserve every last penny's worth of it.

 

[Hotdog]

I don't think a lot of people in Utah realize this fact. Still.

All tipped employees know Utah sucks.

If you frequent places where no alcoholic drinks are served and most of the customers are LDS, I'm guessing the servers average age is 15. Enjoy your service! You deserve every last penny's worth of it.

I usually overtip a little to try and offset the crappy ones they get. Working in the service industry is not easy or fun. I feel bad for those people. I hate going out with someone and watching them tip poorly. Such bad form. Makes me feel embarrassed to be there.

 

[Gameface]

I usually overtip a little to try and offset the crappy ones they get. Working in the service industry is not easy or fun. I feel bad for those people. I hate going out with someone and watching them tip poorly. Such bad form. Makes me feel embarrassed to be there.

Agreed. I don't feel bad for servers. I just hope that they are treated well and compensated fairly. It's not an easy job. I've done it and sucked at it. I appreciate people who can do it well.

 

[Miggs]

I think most states are like that. NJ is.