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I like the tipping system. Like I said, I was a waiter at a steakhouse. I sucked at it. I'd go home with less then gas money...I found a different kind of work that I was better at. So the tipping system improved service at that establishment.

Tipping absolutely encourages better service.

Also, at places where I'm a regular I get preferential treatment because I tip well, and I like that because I'm not the schmoozy kind of guy that would get that treatment otherwise.

TIPS stands for "to insure prompt service"
 
Yet, they choose to do that for a job. :) Good thing they're not forced.

Why the hell do we tip in the first place? Murica.
The same quality of people would choose a different line of work if we eliminated tipping. Imagine Wal-Mart employees serving you your streak.
 
Eh, to each his own. I realize American men have this machismo about how well they can barbecue meat (Freud told me you're all most likely closet gay), but I've never cooked or seen anyone cook a steak anywhere near as good using conventional methods.

There's a reason top steakhouses don't use coals or smokers. Those are now for county fairs and carnivals.

I totally ain't a gay and I can tell you; if you like the taste of meat in your mouth how it got there and where it came from matters. Not caring, that's how people get aids.
 
I like the tipping system. Like I said, I was a waiter at a steakhouse. I sucked at it. I'd go home with less then gas money...I found a different kind of work that I was better at. So the tipping system improved service at that establishment.

Tipping absolutely encourages better service.

Also, at places where I'm a regular I get preferential treatment because I tip well, and I like that because I'm not the schmoozy kind of guy that would get that treatment otherwise.

TIPS stands for "to insure prompt service"

I am indifferent on the tipping system. I like aspects of it but dont like other aspects.

You prefer that rich people get treated better and get faster service than someone of less wealth then them? Not saying I am oppose to that, just asking.
 
What I dislike about tipping is the expectation, like it's an automatic. If it truly depended on the service, I would feel differently. But how many people give significantly less or more than the regular 15 -20%?
 
What I dislike about tipping is the expectation, like it's an automatic. If it truly depended on the service, I would feel differently. But how many people give significantly less or more than the regular 15 -20%?
Probably not many. But like I've already said a couple times, I got Jack for tips working at a steakhouse. I quit because I wasn't earning enough to pay for gas and I was getting taxed for more than I was making.
 
I totally ain't a gay and I can tell you; if you like the taste of meat in your mouth how it got there and where it came from matters. Not caring, that's how people get aids.
That's what makes ruths chris so good.
They get the best quality meat that there is
 
Eh, to each his own. I realize American men have this machismo about how well they can barbecue meat (Freud told me you're all most likely closet gay), but I've never cooked or seen anyone cook a steak anywhere near as good using conventional methods.

There's a reason top steakhouses don't use coals or smokers. Those are now for county fairs and carnivals.
I've never had a steak at a restaurant that's as good as what I can cook myself with a high quality piece of meat (Costco) and my charcoal Weber grill. Seriously, it's to the point where I no longer order steak ever when I go to restaurants. And I don't even do any of the aging stuff that Loggrad has posted about here in the past.
 
That's what makes ruths chris so good.
They get the best quality meat that there is

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I like tipping. If the waiter was paid wholly by their employer they would be less friendly imo. I tip well(1/3 to 1/2). If the waiter is a complete douche I tell them why they aren't getting a tip.(I've only done that a couple times)

I wish tipping was customary for more service jobs. Nurses are a great example. My childs nurse is really nice but I have had some horrid ones. It would be nice if they were "bribed" to be pleasant.

If the guy was paid a regular salary, like most everyone else on the planet, nothing is stopping you from tipping them. We tipped people in Europe all the time. Just not an exorbitant amount, because their salary was rolled into the price of the meal.

If he sucks at his job he will be laid off, like most everyone else on the planet.

Customers should not control an employees wage directly, much like companies should expect customers to pay 20% more on top of their bill for the labor component of their business.
 
I like the tipping system. Like I said, I was a waiter at a steakhouse. I sucked at it. I'd go home with less then gas money...I found a different kind of work that I was better at. So the tipping system improved service at that establishment.

Tipping absolutely encourages better service.

Also, at places where I'm a regular I get preferential treatment because I tip well, and I like that because I'm not the schmoozy kind of guy that would get that treatment otherwise.

TIPS stands for "to insure prompt service"

The downside of that is that you're salary is completely dependent on 10-30 (or whatever) people's attitudes, some who may not tip at all, like my Grandmother who grew up in the Depression and was a total tight wad.

Or hell, someone is just having a bad day and cheaps out on the tip. At the restaurant I worked at one many days it just seemed like the luck of the draw on whether the server got paid well or not (which trickled down to me as a buser...part of the reason I hate the idea of tipping is that I sort of enjoy having a consistent salary, yet only in the food service industry is that idea frowned upon in terms of salaried employees).

Also, when did 20% become the standard for tipping? I could have sworn it was 15% when I was a kid. At some point is it going to get to 30%?
 
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