If not Rubio then what?

[fishonjazz]

I have done enough trash talking on rubio for a while. Regardless of how he plays he will be the starting point guard for the utah jazz for the remainder of this year and he will get the most minutes at point guard of anyone on our team (barring injury of course). He could shoot 0-50 in the next 10 games and in the 11th game he would still be the starter and get 25+ minutes.

So might as well just cheer him on and root for him harder than anyone on the team since i am a jazz fan and the best way for the jazz to win games this year is for ricky to take and make open shots. When does that we are really hard to beat. When he doesn't do that its tough for us to win.

GO RICKY!

 

[NUMBERICA]

I think George Hill would be a nice stop-gap because that's what the Jazz are going to be working with on this topic. We know Hill isn't the leader that was advertised, and he has injury issues, but he's been a really nice player, especially when he's asked to step up. Let's also remember how he looked playing under Quin.

To @NAOS 's point; I agree Donovan is better served playing off-the-ball, I just don't know who we have that's going to be better at him at the 1 and making that switch provides an infusion of size as well.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I have done enough trash talking on rubio for a while. Regardless of how he plays he will be the starting point guard for the utah jazz for the remainder of this year and he will get the most minutes at point guard of anyone on our team (barring injury of course). He could shoot 0-50 in the next 10 games and in the 11th game he would still be the starter and get 25+ minutes.

So might as well just cheer him on and root for him harder than anyone on the team since i am a jazz fan and the best way for the jazz to win games this year is for ricky to take and make open shots. When does that we are really hard to beat. When he doesn't do that its tough for us to win.

GO RICKY!

So optimism is cool, but that is so ****ing bleak. Ricky is going to crash this season and the future plans of this franchise if a dramatic change doesn't happen. We will be having passionate debates about college players in February.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Like if Ricky was still in Minny would he be a guy we’d go and get if we have the same basic core? I think that’d be a pretty clear no.

This is a very good point. I think that cap space is better used elsewhere.

 

[homeytennis]

Naz had a near triple double last night for the Stars in their win.

 

[LoPo]

Ricky is going to crash this season and the future plans of this franchise if a a dramatic change doesn't happen. We will be having passionate debates about college players in February.

Sad but probably true

 

[NUMBERICA]

Seriously, the best next step is to talk with Ricky about his being benched. If he can't deal with that, shop the **** out of him for everyone's benefit. This team does not need him. When he's good at putting the ball in the basket, everything changes, but when he's not, the effect is the opposite and he's closer to his averages now than he was when he got hot.

I have been worried about Ricky's play ever since Kokoskov got poached. He is largely responsible for the growth Ricky saw last year, and I don't think it's a coincidence that we've seen Ricky revert back to how he was.

 

[NAOS]

I have done enough trash talking on rubio for a while. Regardless of how he plays he will be the starting point guard for the utah jazz for the remainder of this year and he will get the most minutes at point guard of anyone on our team (barring injury of course). He could shoot 0-50 in the next 10 games and in the 11th game he would still be the starter and get 25+ minutes.

So might as well just cheer him on and root for him harder than anyone on the team since i am a jazz fan and the best way for the jazz to win games this year is for ricky to take and make open shots. When does that we are really hard to beat. When he doesn't do that its tough for us to win.

GO RICKY!

El Rubber Stamp

 

[MVP]

I don't see us giving up on Exum yet. However, this seems reasonable (if our FO/fans would be okay with Hill coming back):

Burks and Thabo for Hill: http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yddrlg5s

Cleveland gets to save a few million. Maybe we throw in some 2nd rounder too.

I personally would aim higher, but I'm responding to the question at hand.

If we dealing with Cavs I want Korver back as well.

 

[LoPo]

If we dealing with Cavs I want Korver back as well.

Hill and Korver combine for $26.5+ in salaries so we would need to send out around $22+ in salaries to make the trade work.

Guys I would imagine we would be willing to send out in a trade like this:
Burks ($11.54)
Thabo ($5.25)
Udoh ($3.36)
Neto ($2.15)
Bradley ($1.68)
TOTAL $23

Neto isn't available for trade until January so we couldn't actually make this trade until January. I highly doubt we would trade Gobert, Crowder, Rubio, Mitchell, Favors, Grayson, or O'Neale for this type deal.

In addition, Korver is in demand right now and I don't think he is worth a draft pick he might get the Cavs from the Bucks, Lakers, Sixers, etc.

 

[NUMBERICA]

We're not getting Korver.

Hill might be obtainable because of the size of his salary, that he likely doesn't figure into the longterm plans + he's expiring, and that the league is flush with starter-quality PGs (and we somehow don't have one). They should also probably tank this year.

I wouldn't know where to send Rubio though.

I would trade Exum for Hill in a second but I'm probably of the minority opinion there.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

When you are ready to make one clear point based on anything measurable I’m here for it...

GTFO here with pulling a LoPo... you are ducking any real argument cuz you have nothing real to base it on. When you got nothing you go to unarguable points and insults.

You are acting like I'm making an argument for Ricky, I'm not. And that's how you're pulling a Lopo.