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If not Rubio then what?

Handlogten's Heros said:
I guess when there are no facts to backup your irrational dislike of someone then this is where you go.

Dante takes 50% of his shots at the rim. He isn't finishing as well as he did last year... but drawing fouls and putting pressure on the rim are huge. Even when he misses if the bigs have to help then it opens up offensive rebound opportunities.

I'm sorry he didn't magically turn to Steph Curry... but there is some progress there and some stuff to like. I don't think he has some Penny Hardaway upside... but one extra three falls (out of 21) or one extra layup and you are looking at 44/33 shooting percentages from a young player who is drawing a **** ton of fouls. Let's give him 10-20 more games before we make harsh judgments.
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Yes, this is where I ****ing go and it's so irrational even though I provided ****** ****ing stats for the season and alluded to his ****** ones for the entirety of his career, and didn't pull the ridiculous fairy tale "if one more fell" nonsense that could be said for literally every player and therefore makes the statement ludicrous though I'll concede slightly less ludicrous for him since he doesn't take a lot of attempts per game. But yeah, this is where I ****ing go.

Overreact some more though to me simply saying "Sigh," holy Christ.
 
LoPo said:
I think it would take our first rounder and actually could use a trade exception from the Joe Johnson buyout and save Boston $3 million. We might have to add Bradley if Boston likes Bradley.
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Hmm, I kinda like that deal (not as enthusiastic with Bradley, but probably wouldn't break it). What do others think?
 
Eminence said:
Hmm, I kinda like that deal (not as enthusiastic with Bradley, but probably wouldn't break it). What do others think?
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Not a fan. If they do a Rozier deal they will try to dip below the tax. Will help them avoid the repeater tax later. So they would not want Bradley... they'd want to send Rozier and likely Jabari Bird's contract to get them all the way below the tax. Maybe Guershon, but they picked up his option... which was weird imo.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Not a fan. If they do a Rozier deal they will try to dip below the tax. Will help them avoid the repeater tax later. So they would not want Bradley... they'd want to send Rozier and likely Jabari Bird's contract to get them all the way below the tax. Maybe Guershon, but they picked up his option... which was weird imo.
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Boston is at $126,408,547.
Luxury Limit is $123,730,000
Rozier makes $3,050,389

So if they dumped Rozier without taking back any salary, they would actually be right below the luxury line. ($123,358,158)
 
yamers said:
think rozier's defensive stats are over-inflated b/c the celtics have good overall team defense which inflates his stats.
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Likely true, but they are a better defensive team with him on the court (though much worse offensively).
 
Jazz offensive rating with Rubio on court: 112

Boston offensive rating with Rozier on court: 103
 
Jazz's offense really hasnt been that bad with Rubio. It's the defensive issues. I don't think they can be linked to any single player, it's a team wide thing currently. A guy like Rozier certainly won't save that. He will probably just make the offense worse.
 
Alfalfa said:
But Rozier comes off the bench for Irving...
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Boston is one of the deepest teams in the NBA. Coming off the bench you are playing with a red hot Marcus Morris and at least one of Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, and Gordon Hayward. Any offensive issues they face are on Rozier because he has been one of the least efficient offensive players in the NBA this season. Also probably because of Marcus Smart.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Jazz's offense really hasnt been that bad with Rubio. It's the defensive issues. I don't think they can be linked to any single player, it's a team wide thing currently. A guy like Rozier certainly won't save that. He will probably just make the offense worse.
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Nail on the head. If Jazz could hold their ORTG around 109 (where they currently are) all season I'd be happy. Their defense needs to (and should) be about 100 DRTG and they'll end where many expect them to be.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Boston is one of the deepest teams in the NBA. Coming off the bench you are playing with a red hot Marcus Morris and at least one of Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, and Gordon Hayward. Any offensive issues they face are on Rozier because he has been one of the least efficient offensive players in the NBA this season. Also probably because of Marcus Smart.
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And he goes against bench guys... and they play in the JV conference. If he was building on his playoff success I could see a case... he's having a down year.

Why throw a pick (plus more... its danny he gets 110% of value in every trade) for a guy who on paper doesn't provide a clear upgrade over the two guys you have. Ricky will get better... I just don't think he goes Rick Curry like he did last year.

Terry is a fun guy to watch... when he's not on your team... my guess is after 25 games we'd have similar complaints about Terry that we do about Rubio and Exum.
 
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