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Interesting Article On Rudy Haters.

What if I told you that your posts were reported for stupidity and I was forced to open those threads?

Don't derail the thread. I hate it when people do that.

Where were we, oh yea, being jealous of LoPo's contrarian role takeover. Not cool.
My haters are numerous. Modstapo is part of that group.
 
This was an interesting read. I never said TMac was better. I simply was saying that before MJ had Pippen, he had some cute stats and accomplishments but none of the things that people define him has now - some elite winner. Nah, MJ had to have Pippen for wins in this league.

MJ had 5 seasons in his career without Pippen, but nobody ever ever talks about those. They spend all day talking about the 10 seasons winning with Pippen, but never talk about Pippen. That goes for his peers, media, pundits, everybody. It's as if MJ played by himself. That's disrespect. The MJ Goat debate never includes MJ being helped by one of the greatest of all time - Scottie Pippen.
Was Pippen not #32 on the top 75 list that just came out?
 
Draymond thinks he is top 75 …..add another zero on that 75 and we might find a spot for this donkey
 
This was an interesting read. I never said TMac was better. I simply was saying that before MJ had Pippen, he had some cute stats and accomplishments but none of the things that people define him has now - some elite winner. Nah, MJ had to have Pippen for wins in this league.

MJ had 5 seasons in his career without Pippen, but nobody ever ever talks about those. They spend all day talking about the 10 seasons winning with Pippen, but never talk about Pippen. That goes for his peers, media, pundits, everybody. It's as if MJ played by himself. That's disrespect. The MJ Goat debate never includes MJ being helped by one of the greatest of all time - Scottie Pippen.
You said "less than TMac". Squirm all you like, those were your words.
 
Pippen was making like $4 million a year while MJ was making $35+. Pippen has always been disrespected.
In 1994 Magic’s per year salary was just ov
It's funny - I agree with unfair nature of Rudy's treatment by his peers. And I also can't stand Draymond.

I'm just not going to sit here while another outlandish claim is made. Literally, somebody said Rudy is the most disrespected superstar of all time. I mean cmon on many levels.

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lol. The Covid pandemic is blamed on Gobert. Lol
 
Damn Jordan Sucks! He didnt win a championship in his first couple years with a bad team going up against the likes of perenial power house Boston and this guy Larry Bird despite having some of the greatest playoff performances of all time.

Pippen doesnt get any credit! Its not like he is universally considered the greatest Robin in NBA history. The only other people lately that got considered that were DWade and Kobe. What crappy company to be in! He only got ranked 32nd best player of all time.

5 seasons without Pippen...Lol he is including the Wizards years where he was far removed from the league and old. He dramatically turned that team around before getting hurt. He should have won the chip that year right?

Its pretty much pointless to have a serious conversation with LoPo about Jordan.

Now he is calling him Tmac.

Funny how this Gobert haters thread got hijacked into a Jordan Pippen debate. But to be fair LoPo is also a huge Gobert hater so that makes sense.
 
Damn Jordan Sucks! He didnt win a championship in his first couple years with a bad team going up against the likes of perenial power house Boston and this guy Larry Bird despite having some of the greatest playoff performances of all time.

Pippen doesnt get any credit! Its not like he is universally considered the greatest Robin in NBA history. The only other people lately that got considered that were DWade and Kobe. What crappy company to be in! He only got ranked 32nd best player of all time.

5 seasons without Pippen...Lol he is including the Wizards years where he was far removed from the league and old. He dramatically turned that team around before getting hurt. He should have won the chip that year right?

Its pretty much pointless to have a serious conversation with LoPo about Jordan.

Now he is calling him Tmac.

Funny how this Gobert haters thread got hijacked into a Jordan Pippen debate. But to be fair LoPo is also a huge Gobert hater so that makes sense.
Lopo is incredible lmao
 
Damn Jordan Sucks! He didnt win a championship in his first couple years with a bad team going up against the likes of perenial power house Boston and this guy Larry Bird despite having some of the greatest playoff performances of all time.

Pippen doesnt get any credit! Its not like he is universally considered the greatest Robin in NBA history. The only other people lately that got considered that were DWade and Kobe. What crappy company to be in! He only got ranked 32nd best player of all time.

5 seasons without Pippen...Lol he is including the Wizards years where he was far removed from the league and old. He dramatically turned that team around before getting hurt. He should have won the chip that year right?

Its pretty much pointless to have a serious conversation with LoPo about Jordan.

Now he is calling him Tmac.

Funny how this Gobert haters thread got hijacked into a Jordan Pippen debate. But to be fair LoPo is also a huge Gobert hater so that makes sense.
I really wish you could read. I have defended Rudy in this thread.

I like Rudy the person. I respect Rudy the player. Do I think built around Rudy is the way we win a title? No. Titles aren't won built around $40 million big men. Doesn't mean I don't like Rudy the player or won't defend him like I clearly have in this thread.
 
Damn Jordan Sucks! He didnt win a championship in his first couple years with a bad team going up against the likes of perenial power house Boston and this guy Larry Bird despite having some of the greatest playoff performances of all time.

Pippen doesnt get any credit! Its not like he is universally considered the greatest Robin in NBA history. The only other people lately that got considered that were DWade and Kobe. What crappy company to be in! He only got ranked 32nd best player of all time.

5 seasons without Pippen...Lol he is including the Wizards years where he was far removed from the league and old. He dramatically turned that team around before getting hurt. He should have won the chip that year right?

Its pretty much pointless to have a serious conversation with LoPo about Jordan.

Now he is calling him Tmac.

Funny how this Gobert haters thread got hijacked into a Jordan Pippen debate. But to be fair LoPo is also a huge Gobert hater so that makes sense.
Make all the excuses you want - MJ has a losing season every season without Scottie Pippen. And a 1-10 playoff record.

If Kareem, or Russell, or LBJ or Kobe had a losing record without a certain teammate, you could bet your *** that fact would be brought up all the time to bash their legacy. With MJ, we just let it all slide.....
 
Was Pippen not #32 on the top 75 list that just came out?
Yeah, that list is legit lol..... The same list that said Barkley had a better career than Malone.

Tell me how these guys had a better career than Scottie Pippen (I'm not going to include the really old dudes just dudes from his era or since) -

#31 Iverson
#29 Chris Paul
#27 Isaih Thomas
#25 David Robinson
#22 Barkley
#21 Garnett
#18 Giannis

That list above is disrespect. Pippen also went 6-0 in Finals. He also had a badass career outside of playing with Michael Jordan. And I think there are other arguments that could be had of Scottie's career vs the older generation, Dirk, Durant, Steph, and even Stockton and Malone. Like the best coach of all time Phil Jackson called him - the best defender of all time.

Scottie is so severely underrated and disrespected. His career numbers took a bit of a hit because he was willing to be a crucial role player on those Blazer teams late in his career because the guy would do anything to win.
 
That's my mistake. I didn't mean that. I was just trying to compare them. My screw up there.
Over-hyperbole in the heat of the moment, I get it.
 
Yeah, that list is legit lol..... The same list that said Barkley had a better career than Malone.

Tell me how these guys had a better career than Scottie Pippen (I'm not going to include the really old dudes just dudes from his era or since) -

#31 Iverson
#29 Chris Paul
#27 Isaih Thomas
#25 David Robinson
#22 Barkley
#21 Garnett
#18 Giannis

That list above is disrespect. Pippen also went 6-0 in Finals. He also had a badass career outside of playing with Michael Jordan. And I think there are other arguments that could be had of Scottie's career vs the older generation, Dirk, Durant, Steph, and even Stockton and Malone. Like the best coach of all time Phil Jackson called him - the best defender of all time.

Scottie is so severely underrated and disrespected. His career numbers took a bit of a hit because he was willing to be a crucial role player on those Blazer teams late in his career because the guy would do anything to win.
The level of dick riding is unprecedented
 
The level of dick riding is unprecedented
Yeah, the MJ dick riding is beyond ridiculous and is unprecedented.

Somebody has to be out there to keep things in perspective. There's just a lot less of us objective folks out there like me and a lot more Jordans wearing brainwashed folks who blindly defend MJ no matter what.
 
31 Iverson
#29 Chris Paul
#27 Isaih Thomas
#25 David Robinson
#22 Barkley
#21 Garnett
#18 Giannis
Not better than Iverson, Thomas, Barkley, Garnett, or Giannis. I’ll give you Paul and Robinson, but it’s not by much, so if a list has them ahead, in my experience no lists are perfect, but I can live with Robinson and Paul ahead.
 
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