Interesting trade idea from Locke

[Gyp Rosetti]

I really think the Jazz would be gunning for Favors if they picked up the #2 pick. If NJ wanted Turner, then this is an even better deal for the Jazz. In fact, I'd wager that understanding NJ's desires would factor into their decision to pull the trigger on this deal -- since, essentially, the trade for Brand and #2 would then include an additional asset. The Jazz would have the summer of a lifetime if they could land Favors and another mid-first round pick, selecting someone like Hayward or Bradley. Then select Randle in the 2nd round and you've addressed every problem from last year's roster. (I realize this is the extreme-best case scenario)

How would they get another mid-round first?

 

[Darkwing Duck]

The bottom line to me, if we were able to get someone like Favors, we have to do it. A player of his athleticism, size and upside (please don't mention Kwame--he sucked), who plays both ends of the court is very rare.

Doing it for Favors is just downright nutty. Brand is no center, so you'd have 3 PF on the roster with contracts for three years minimum.

And the whole "we can just trade one" is not a good approach because there are no guarantees, just like thinking Turner is an all-star.

 

[default]

Doing it for Favors is just downright nutty. Brand is no center, so you'd have 3 PF on the roster with contracts for three years minimum.

And the whole "we can just trade one" is not a good approach because there are no guarantees, just like thinking Turner is an all-star.

Obviously, you forgot to drink the Kool-Aide before you posted that statement.

 

[NAOS]

How would they get another mid-round first?

say, if NJ wanted to move up to #2, then we could trade down to #3 and pick up their #27. Then we package #27 plus some combination of Tomic, KK2, and the Memphis pick in order to move up to the middle of the first round.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Another option:

Trade AK in basically a salary dump (e.g., New Jersey); re-sign Boozer; draft a potential superstar wing (George, Aminu, Babbit). That gives the Jazz a core of Williams, Boozer and a superstar wing with Miles, Matthews and Millsap. Yes, the Jazz need to develop Fess, Koufos and Tomic for the 5 spot along with Okur. I would also re-sign Korver unless we think the new wing is ready to shoot lights out and play some real defense this year. If the Jazz can't re-sign Boozer, then start Millsap and pick up a FA back-up at PF.

If AK isn't giving us much and he's costing us the ability to sign Boozer or another FA that the Jazz need, you gotta let him go at the first chance and seize this opportunity to replace him with a superstar wing in this draft. The Jazz aren't going to realistically draft a player who can replace Boozer or become a starting PF/C where they are in this draft. I would be willing to draft Whiteside and give him a try, but the Jazz still need an impact player at the wing, and if they see one in this draft they should take him.

 

[NAOS]

Doing it for Favors is just downright nutty. Brand is no center, so you'd have 3 PF on the roster with contracts for three years minimum.

And the whole "we can just trade one" is not a good approach because there are no guarantees, just like thinking Turner is an all-star.

Millsap is very tradable. While there are no guarantees, this is as close as you can get on these sorts of things.

A lot of people are saying that Favors will be able to play the C, but I don't have any personal opinion on this.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I wrote out an option for trading Millsap--along the lines of trading Millsap to Golden State or Detroit to move up a few spots in this draft to get a player the Jazz really want. I didn't think Millsap could get the Jazz all the way to #2, but if Philly wants 9 and Millsap for Brand and 2, I would do this and take Favors in the draft. Otherwise, I don't think it makes sense for the Jazz to move Millsap. The Jazz let Boozer walk and have to find a way to dump AK, but the Jazz would have a real superstar on a rookie contract to team with Williams, Miles, Mathews and Tomic (in a year).

 

[gregbroncs]

i agree with Darkwing. If your trading for Brand then your are not doing so to pick up Favors, It would be because they want Turner or maybe Cousins but I doubt it's for Cousins either.

 

[gregbroncs]

Another option:

Trade AK in basically a salary dump (e.g., New Jersey); re-sign Boozer; draft a potential superstar wing (George, Aminu, Babbit). That gives the Jazz a core of Williams, Boozer and a superstar wing with Miles, Matthews and Millsap. Yes, the Jazz need to develop Fess, Koufos and Tomic for the 5 spot along with Okur. I would also re-sign Korver unless we think the new wing is ready to shoot lights out and play some real defense this year. If the Jazz can't re-sign Boozer, then start Millsap and pick up a FA back-up at PF.

If AK isn't giving us much and he's costing us the ability to sign Boozer or another FA that the Jazz need, you gotta let him go at the first chance and seize this opportunity to replace him with a superstar wing in this draft. The Jazz aren't going to realistically draft a player who can replace Boozer or become a starting PF/C where they are in this draft. I would be willing to draft Whiteside and give him a try, but the Jazz still need an impact player at the wing, and if they see one in this draft they should take him.

No thanks I would rather not bring back the same team for even more money.

 

[NAOS]

I agree... trading Millsap is not something I would like to see happen. If, as the thread title suggests, we can move AK and the #9 for Brand and the #2, then I think you operate under the assumption that Millsap is your starter and Brand is working to become the 6th man of the year. If I were running the front office and I had the #2 pick, then I'd be working to make sure that NJ thought we were going to pick who they wanted and move for a trade down and another pick. Basically, I'd take either Favors or Turner, but try to pick up NJ's #27 in the process (maybe we have to throw in a future pick). I really think we have the assets to turn that lower pick into a mid-first.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

No thanks I would rather not bring back the same team for even more money.

If we dump AK, it's not the same team for more money. It's the same team + a hotshot rookie at the wing for less money. The following year Memo comes off the books and we bring in Tomic.

Williams, Matthews/Miles, George/Aminu/Babbit, Boozer/Millsap, Fess/Okur/Tomic is probably the closest to a truly contending team that the Jazz can get. Williams, Boozer and the wing are our big three, and we have a nice 9-man rotation. The problem with the Jazz is the money they're paying AK and the fact that he doesn't show up (one way or another).

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I agree... trading Millsap is not something I would like to see happen. If, as the thread title suggests, we can move AK and the #9 for Brand and the #2, then I think you operate under the assumption that Millsap is your starter and Brand is working to become the 6th man of the year. If I were running the front office and I had the #2 pick, then I'd be working to make sure that NJ thought we were going to pick who they wanted and move for a trade down and another pick. Basically, I'd take either Favors or Turner, but try to pick up NJ's #27 in the process (maybe we have to throw in a future pick). I really think we have the assets to turn that lower pick into a mid-first.

Do you really think Philly would give up the #2 pick in this draft for AK and 9? They'd be giving up Turner or Favors for AK and probably Paul George or Ekepe Udoh.