You think because I am against lieing about getting raped that I am wasting my time and instead should preach rape awareness and think about "all those silent woman who don't speak out against getting raped."
No I don't think that at all. I've said nothing that I'm aware of that should lead you or anyone else to reach this conclusion. I was commenting generally with no particular person in mind and have made no assumptions about what you believe on this topic. If you think I'm wrong, please point out what I said that causes you to disagree.
Last time I checked rapest go to jail for a very long time.
I wish that were the case. I suspect that many rapist get away with it, for a variety of reasons, one being reluctance of women to bring charges, social pressures, cultural forces, and fears of being humiliated/shamed. For example, there have been reports of wide spread rape and sexual harassment in the military, but with few prosecutions and even fewer convictions. Many of the points the woman makes in the video that you ridicule are, IMHO, good points, without necessarily reaching a conclusion that men accused of rape should not enjoy presumption of innocence before the law and be subject to normal rules of evidence.
Everyone I know agrees that rape is bad and it is done amongst criminals.
Actually, rape/sexual harassment is not limited to ‘criminals’ only, but extends to population groups not normally associated with being ‘criminal’ groups.
Yet those video I posted show woman who accuse other people of commeting a felony and get aware scott free. I think this is a huge issue that no one talks about. Just like the video you side step what I am talking about and talk about rape culture and bring up out of no wear the thousands of woman who are silent about getting raped.
How the hell am I sidestepping any issue?. I’ve not attempted a dissertation on rape/sexual assault here that covers the relevant talking points, but merely commented that I find it interesting how some people don’t seem to get much upset/worked up about the prevalence of rape/sexual assault (which occurs with distressingly great frequency) but get themselves all in a lather for those relatively infrequent cases in which a woman falsely accuses a man of rape or sexual assault.
What does not reporting getting raped have to do with anything that I said?
When I have ever brought this up??? I merely asked you to point out to me what I said to make you or anyone think that the presumption of innocence and normal rules of evidence don’t apply in rape cases. To be honest, I’m not sure what you’re asking. So, if you’d like to try again and pose an honest question to me, I’d be happy to do my best to answer it. I get the impression we’re talking past each other here, but not quite sure how.
What you did is almost identical to what that woman did in the video in that aspect. You blame me for diverting attention away from rape being a crime. Honestly what you said is the most intellectually dishonest thing I have ever seen someone do on Jazzfanz do and you are the type of person I try to avoid in real life.
Oh God, stop being such a drama queen. I didn’t blame you for doing anything, but if I’m wrong, please point out where I blamed you for anything. There’s no intellectual dishonesty here, just you getting your panties in a bunch over something you think I said, but which I really didn’t say.
You are acting like a white knight. I bring up the issue and IMMEDIATELY on the first page of the thread has multiple people quickly jump on the "oh, don't talk about that, talk about how woman are getting raped." Can't I make a post about how sometimes men are the victim too? Do I have to immediately be accused of "being silent of rape."
You can post all you want about men being victims. Believe it or not, I agree that it’s a horrible thing to be falsely accused, which is why I believe firmly in the legal presumption of innocence and the application of normal rule of evidence to rape and sexual harassment cases. My father was falsely accused of sexual harassment by one of his employees, and I have another friend whose career was destroyed by false accusations of sexual harassment. I’m well aware that it’s an important issue, so please quit lecturing me.
I’ve only merely posed a general question, which I find to be an interesting one, and you’ve gone and created an entire fictional narrative about what I said, what I think about you, etc. My advice to you is to take a deep breath, calm down, quit imagining things and move on.
