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Is Wiggins going to slip out of the top 3?

sirkickyass

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In reading the tea leaves of the direction of draft talk it sounds like everyone is talking themselves into other players and Wiggins is primarily being defined by his limitations.

For example see the scout's takes hosted on Grantland today.

https://grantland.com/the-triangle/...l-scouts-on-wiggins-randle-embiid-and-parker/

I'm starting to see chatter around Aaron Gordon as a Shawn Marion clone (probably because Bill Simmons has said it a few times) and Noah Vonleh is rarely discussed in terms of his faults. Other than on Jazzfanz, there seem to be a fair number of people who believe Exum might have the highest ceiling. This is somewhat baffling, but it appears to me that everyone's stock is rising except for Wiggins and Marcus Smart's. If the trend continues this might means Smart falls out of the top 10 and Wiggins ends up around 5-7.

There is some precedent for this. Chris Paul was considered consensus #1 for almost the entirety of his college season, was considered a known quantity and ended up falling to #4 as everyone picked apart deficiencies. Paul Pierce was an astonishing drop to #10 as he fell behind guys like Raef Lafrentz. Joakim Noah was also a player projected as a 2-4 pick for virtually the entire season until slipping into the #8-12 range in the month before the draft. Same was true, to a lesser and more explainable extent, for a player like Ricky Rubio. Rubio you may remember was considered a top 3 lock for two full years until the actual weeks surrounding the draft.

These things also tend to be somewhat self-fulfilling. Once a guy starts slipping there's little rhyme or reason as to when the slip stops. That's how Danny Granger and Kawhi Leonard ended up as mid first rounders when they were considered sure fire high lottery picks.

It may sound crazy but I'm thinking there's a 30% chance or so that Wiggins is magically available at #5 and 10% he may be available as low as #8.

Of course this means the Lakers will get him and we'll all hate ourselves.
 
I can see Wiggins dropping a few spots. But not past 5. I would hope not anyways.


I really like Wiggins potential, but also see some bust potential in him. It's all about his athleticism with him. He is still so raw. I don't see complete bust, but I could definitely see a pretty big let down considering how he has been projected all year long. If he falls then we have to pick him. I used to put him barely above Jabari, but I think I'm leaning Jabari above him now.

That being said, I doubt he slides past 3.


Don't forget Noel last year too with his slide down. He was protected number one overall all year.
 
I will be stunned to see it. But if he falls to 3 and the 76ers are interested in anything, if I were Utah I'd sell the farm for him. I like Wiggins that much, and would pick him #1 if I were the Cavs GM. I just don't think about the Jazz getting him at all since it seems like an impossibility.

And if he's there at 5 and the Jazz pass on him (again, what feels to me like now as a 0.01% chance) I'll seriously consider why I'm a Jazz fan.
 
Perfect example is Noel last year. Everyone thought he was number one, even up until minutes before the draft.
 
If Wiggins slipped to 5 and we got him I would be doing a happy dance for days. Of course we would need the right coach to help him develop.
 
We are talking about players that were said to be going number one all year and didn't. Plus with Noel most scouts and media thought he was going number one even with the injury.

Yes, I know that. The only reason he didn't go #1 is because of his injury.
 
Yes, I know that. The only reason he didn't go #1 is because of his injury.

Ya think???? Thats not the point. The point is EVEN WITH the injury people still thought he was going #1, go back and watch the draft, most of the panel had him going number one minutes before the draft started.

Go back to the start of the year it was Wiggns number one, and Jabari number two. Then all year long it was one or the other. Then not until after the college season is over are we hearing that Embid is the clear number one. The point is its not that crazy to think of a player falling a few spots even with the media saying he will be number one or number two.
 
Ya think???? Thats not the point. The point is EVEN WITH the injury people still thought he was going #1, go back and watch the draft, most of the panel had him going number one minutes before the draft started.

Go back to the start of the year it was Wiggns number one, and Jabari number two. Then all year long it was one or the other. Then not until after the college season is over are we hearing that Embid is the clear number one. The point is its not that crazy to think of a player falling a few spots even with the media saying he will be number one or number two.

Okay, the reason Wiggins won't fall is because he isn't ****ing injured simple as that. I could see Wiggins fall to #3 at the farthest. You're idiotic for even thinking there is a chance for him to fall to #5.
 
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