January 2021 State of the Jazz Address

[LogGrad98]

Notice every time bogey drives he falls on the floor? This looks like an excuse to not get back on defense and the other team knows it, so they just run and we, on the other side are outnumbered on defense.

Yeah he's not falling and risking injury on purpose.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

So glad we drafted Dok then


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I been on that corner since draft night. Look in the bright side though... we’ve made this exact mistake twice... probably only have to make the mistake a few more times before we stop doing it. We are almost there.

 

[LogGrad98]

Yeah we know perimeter D and backcourt D are our primary weaknesses. This was evident in the bubble. So we draft a big we could have had in the 2nd round and we don't go after any wing talent at all. Um. Ok. Just speechless. Again I think the FO is all about slow and steady puts butts in the seats and not trying to win a ring. That's too risky. Play it safe. Pay the bills. The fans are loyal because wtf else are they going to watch? The Beez or whatever?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah he's not falling and risking injury on purpose.

He’s such a lazy ***.

 

[movedaball]

I been on that corner since draft night. Look in the bright side though... we’ve made this exact mistake twice... probably only have to make the mistake a few more times before we stop doing it. We are almost there.

Maybe we can shoot for a backup PG instead? Someone 6’0”-6’1” ish who likes to shoot a lot? There should be a lot of those in 14-30 range is we can hang on to our draft pick... lol


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[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah we know perimeter D and backcourt D are our primary weaknesses. This was evident in the bubble. So we draft a big we could have had in the 2nd round and we don't go after any wing talent at all. Um. Ok. Just speechless. Again I think the FO is all about slow and steady puts butts in the seats and not trying to win a ring. That's too risky. Play it safe. Pay the bills. The fans are loyal because wtf else are they going to watch? The Beez or whatever?

I did love the people on here saying he’d be the backup this year... I was firm in telling them we’d sign a vet... we then rolled out 3/30 for Favs. So unless we trade Favs then Dok ain’t getting any time the next few years. 1st rounders that don’t play basically lose their trade value so you won’t get anything for Dok.

Hughes looks fine but could have grabbed Bane and if both guys turn out they can both be on the court at the same time... crazy concept.

Then you also have the fact that backup center is the easiest thing to find in FA on a budget. Favs signing is fine imo because we needed to fix that issue and there is some certainty there... Udoka basically needs to be Capela to be a worthwhile pick and we may never know if he’s any good... filing your backup center need in 3 years is a tough use of a first rounder.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Maybe we can shoot for a backup PG instead? Someone 6’0”-6’1” ish who likes to shoot a lot? There should be a lot of those in 14-30 range is we can hang on to our draft pick... lol


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Even using the pick like that might have been wise... if Mike bails this summer that player could get playing time. To draft a center I’d have to either need a center, they’d have to be a unicorn, or they’d have to be so much better than the wing talent in their draft range that you have to take them.

 

[jom2003]

Like I said, you just can't trust guys like Joe and Bojan for very long cuz they can fall off at any time. And as for Bojan, I'm afraid that time has come. They will still show signs of their prime self on some night, but you simply can not trust them every night like you used to. An old team still trying to compete when the window has already closed on them. That's how I feel about this team right now. It's still not too late for DM and Rudy as I believe there are still a lot of good basketball left in them, but the way this team is constructed...You may just have to hope that they will stick around as we head towards a rebuild trying to get younger/more athletic even though we should have done it a ****ing long time ago.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I did love the people on here saying he’d be the backup this year... I was firm in telling them we’d sign a vet... we then rolled out 3/30 for Favs. So unless we trade Favs then Dok ain’t getting any time the next few years. 1st rounders that don’t play basically lose their trade value so you won’t get anything for Dok.

Hughes looks fine but could have grabbed Bane and if both guys turn out they can both be on the court at the same time... crazy concept.

Then you also have the fact that backup center is the easiest thing to find in FA on a budget. Favs signing is fine imo because we needed to fix that issue and there is some certainty there... Udoka basically needs to be Capela to be a worthwhile pick and we may never know if he’s any good... filing your backup center need in 3 years is a tough use of a first rounder.

Im not going to cry over Bane because the fact is that he probably wouldn't get minutes on this team. He also hasnt looked that good according to the advanced stats (which I know arent very important this early, but I'm just saying he isnt a guy we should handwring about missing out on just yet).

I'm holding out hope the Jazz can flip Clarkson for someone with a defensive identity who can play the 2/3 and is at least a net neutral on offense.

 

[jom2003]

Long term we need more dynamic wings... pretty much the toughest thing to find.

If we didn't waste 10 draft picks on point guards and third string bigs I'm sure we’d have it by now. We could have had either Keldon Johnson or Darius Bazley on this team with that 2019’s 23rd pick alone.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

lmao at these reductions from the OP.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think it's extremely stupid to reduce everything down to the backcourt is too small that's why they can't defend.

Remember, on the perimeter wingspan is typically more important than reach. Both Mitchell and Conley have giant wingspans relative to their height.

Conley has a 6'6 WS and Mitchell a 6'10. Even Clarkson has a 6'10 wingspan.

I get that standing reach is also obviously a factor, but even if you account for that, then the two metrics would average out to the backcourt being average sized at worst. I think it's just such an easy thing to harp on and scapegoat since height is the easiest thing to see.