Jazz acquire NAW and Juancho Hernangomez for Ingles, Hughes, and two 2nd round picks.

[Handlogten's Heros]

Finally someone being honest and calling it for what it is.

Andy is the only in market guy who will give you honesty.... nationally everyone is like WTF?

The Zach and Bobby interaction talking about NAW was pretty telling to me about what Portland and NOP felt about him. Maybe they are wrong... it was a cash considerations trade that happened to come with a semi-intriguing prospect.

 

[LogGrad98]

Andy is the only in market guy who will give you honesty.... nationally everyone is like WTF?

The Zach and Bobby interaction talking about NAW was pretty telling to me about what Portland and NOP felt about him. Maybe they are wrong... it was a cash considerations trade that happened to come with a semi-intriguing prospect.

My bet is it was literally the best deal they could put together monetarily. Literally anything else was less of savings. I am sure they crunched the numbers and came back with a spreadsheet showing all the implications and how this one deal saved them $150k more than the next best deal, also involving an obscure underperforming youngster and/or an aging guy on his way out on a small contract. And the third one they considered was $235k more expensive. And so on. Until they got to the deal that added a legit player, but raised our tax cost by $120k so that was a definite no. This was anything but an all-in move.

 

[infection]

And he still managed to make it to the game that night. Prior to that, I’d never seen anyone make it to their team (publicly) in <48 hours.

 

[LogGrad98]

And he still managed to make it to the game that night. Prior to that, I’d never seen anyone make it to their team (publicly) in <48 hours.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

My bet is it was literally the best deal they could put together monetarily. Literally anything else was less of savings. I am sure they crunched the numbers and came back with a spreadsheet showing all the implications and how this one deal saved them $150k more than the next best deal, also involving an obscure underperforming youngster and/or an aging guy on his way out on a small contract. And the third one they considered was $235k more expensive. And so on. Until they got to the deal that added a legit player, but raised our tax cost by $120k so that was a definite no. This was anything but an all-in move.

Maybe not quite to that level but yeah this was about the max amount of savings they could have gotten without just dumping Joe into cap space. If OKC said he send me those 2 seconds plus another second and we will take Ingles into space we'd have jumped for damned joy and saved all Ryan's monies. This was a nice secondary option because we can talk about how much we really love this guy and how we swapped an older guy for a younger guy.

The kicker will be when we get Juan to leave a little money on the table and take a buyout... then we save even more of Ryan's monies.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Here’s a suggestion for NAW:

Hit the weights hard. Might be better to aim for being a 3 and he could use the strength anyway.

 

[Jingled]

This is encouraging, at least. Hopefully it's not just lip service and he actually will try to play this way instead of playing like JC.

 

[prodigy]

Petition for ryan to sell the team to the Million Dollar Man. He always gets his way, *laughs maniacally*.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

My expectations for NAW are super low, but I'd at least like to give him a chance. I understand the argument that Forrest and Butler should be getting those reps, but there's also a chance that NAW in a completely different role and system could be good.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

My expectations for NAW are super low, but I'd at least like to give him a chance. I understand the argument that Forrest and Butler should be getting those reps, but there's also a chance that NAW in a completely different role and system could be good.

Okay but that is a process. I think we should try it but be realistic that it is likely next year where he can make that change.

I just think some of us think we can give a guy a new role and different color jersey and he becomes a different guy. His catch and shoot numbers are just as bad as his other numbers... his defense isn't all of a sudden going to change.

He's a long term project and that's okay... just allocate playing time accordingly.

 

[Jingled]

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Portland may want Joe and would offer him a decent contract during the summer. We may have lost Joe.

I remember Joe on the radio saying he would only play for the jazz and that if he got traded, he’d retire. The fact that he got injured and is done for the year gives him a way to not retire and resign with Utah if Utah so chooses.